Will be switching to injections soon. Dr may be reluctant about HCG but I would like to try it.

roadglide · Nov 25, 2015

Been on cream for about 6 months. First 50mg and now 100, waiting for blood tests to come back but believe I am not responding to creams. If I start cyp injections how do I convince my Dr to try HCG. I don't believe he has ever used it. He is however an integrative/preventative doctor.

CoastWatcher · Nov 25, 2015

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...e-Testicular-Shrinkage-and-Preserve-Fertility

An excellent overview by Nelson.

Vince · Nov 25, 2015

roadglide, if he's willing to write you a script, you can get hcg from https://www.empowerpharmacy.com/ I think injecting is a lot better than gels, for keeping control of your testosterone levels.

roadglide · Nov 25, 2015

Great...Thanks guys. Getting him to write the script will be the tricky part.

roadglide · Nov 25, 2015

How much is HCG for the typical dose? I read that's is pricey.

Vince · Nov 25, 2015

Most use about 1000 iu a week, a vial of hcg is usually 11,000 iu. I'm not sure but I think the price is around $70. I inject 500 iu twice a week, some inject 300 iu three times a week.

Vince Carter · Nov 26, 2015

I pay $40 for a 5000iu vial. I think the 11K is $70 like Vince said. That's APS Pharmacy via Defy.

roadglide · Nov 26, 2015

Good to know....thanks!

Vince · Nov 26, 2015

I've never used this site http://www.safemeds4all.com/products/hcg/56.html https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?4074-No-Prescription-HCG

roadglide · Nov 26, 2015

Vince said:
I've never used this site http://www.safemeds4all.com/products/hcg/56.html https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?4074-No-Prescription-HCG

Thanks Vince looks like an Indian Pharm which I have no problem with, but looks more expensive.

Vince · Nov 26, 2015

roadglide said:
Thanks Vince looks like an Indian Pharm which I have no problem with, but looks more expensive.

Hopefully your doctor will work with you, doctors need to keep educating themselves also

roadglide · Nov 26, 2015

Vince said:
Hopefully your doctor will work with you, doctors need to keep educating themselves also

Hopefully I'll be going in next week, to review my recent blood test. My Doc office can be slow at times. I'll talk to him about it then. If not looks like I can get a referral through the site. I'm excited I found this place, and have been reading a lot.

Thanks again!

roadglide · Nov 30, 2015

Vince Carter said:
I pay $40 for a 5000iu vial. I think the 11K is $70 like Vince said. That's APS Pharmacy via Defy.

Is this an Indian pharmacy guys?

Empower won't give prices over the phone.

Vince Carter · Nov 30, 2015

APS is a compounding pharmacy located in Florida. It is the pharmacy the Defy Medical uses and the prices are what is paid to Defy, not the Pharmacy itself.

roadglide · Nov 30, 2015

Vince Carter said:
APS is a compounding pharmacy located in Florida. It is the pharmacy the Defy Medical uses and the prices are what is paid to Defy, not the Pharmacy itself.

Awesome, thanks for clarifying!

Nelson Vergel · Nov 30, 2015

The best way to convince your doctor to prescribe HCG is to mention these:

1- Your concern about fertility. Show him Dr Lipshultz' study using TRT + HCG

2- Your concern about testicular atrophy. You can say that it hurts when your small testicles recede into your groin area while having sex. Pain is a good motivator for prescription writing.

3- The claim that HCG improves sex drive is true but purely anecdotal at this point, so this is usually not a good negotiation item.

roadglide · Nov 30, 2015

Vince Carter said:
APS is a compounding pharmacy located in Florida. It is the pharmacy the Defy Medical uses and the prices are what is paid to Defy, not the Pharmacy itself.

Think I'm getting it now guys. Checked out Defy website. Didn't know it was a medical provider. Do you have to be a patient of Defy to get a prescription filled? If so does APS sell direct?

roadglide · Nov 30, 2015

Nelson Vergel said:
The best way to convince your doctor to prescribe HCG is to mention these:

1- Your concern about fertility. Show him Dr Lipshultz' study using TRT + HCG

2- Your concern about testicular atrophy. You can say that it hurts when your small testicles recede into your groin area while having sex. Pain is a good motivator for prescription writing.

3- The claim that HCG improves sex drive is true but purely anecdotal at this point, so this is usually not a good negotiation item.

Thanks Nelson, I was also thinking the fertility argument was a good approach. Really enjoying your website by the way. Glad I found it! Learning a lot!