Westward v. Perrigo

[James]

Have any of you guys used either Westward or Perrigo. I've been using 1ml vials of Perrigo for a while and just got a 10ml vial of Westward. I know the ingredients are the same, but I can feel a difference. Anyone have any experience with these brands?

 

[chrismez]

Feel a difference as in what? I think they are all the same...

 

[PAUL-E]

Should be the same the only differences if any should be carrier oil and BA/BB concentrations. That being said I think there will always be a variation in exactly how many MG per ml there are from batch to batch

 

[CoastWatcher]

Have any of you guys used either Westward or Perrigo. I've been using 1ml vials of Perrigo for a while and just got a 10ml vial of Westward. I know the ingredients are the same, but I can feel a difference. Anyone have any experience with these brands?

Be careful when you "feel" a difference during TRT. Don't, by any means, discard the idea that something may have changed, but don't conclude that it must have. Pay attention and if you still wonder, test. Self testing, putting the power in the patient's hands, is a powerful tool.

 

[James]

I don't think they are the same, at least that has not been my experience, despite what it says the solutuon contains. I started a thread a while back talking about how I read a study that there was tremendous inconsistency with compounded testosterone, but it was with compounded creams & gels. I think so many guys on this site have done a great job at getting their protocol dialed in, and as a result very rarely, if ever, change where they get their testosterone from. I was going to a TRT clinic for weekly injections and they changed compounding pharmacies a couple times. I could always tell and would bring it to their attention, as they didn't tell their patients (why would they, testosterone is testosterone). I've been self injecting with Perrigo for 3 months and have had really hard erections when I wake up but very little strength gain in the gym. I switched to Westward 10 days ago and have had no morning wood for about a week, yet I seem to be much stronger in the gym. Haven't you guys taken different drugs, brand name and generic, and since the ingredients on the side of the bottle are identical, you go against your better judgement and choose the lesser priced generic, only to find it doesn't work near as good as you remember the brand name working in the past. Some of you guys have this down so well and feel great so there's no need for you to alter anything, but if you tried T from a different source, your experience may be similar mine.

 

[Vitamin_C]

I started on Watson then went to Perrigo because my insurance covers the small 1ml bottles. I get good morning wood and my strength in the gym is going up.

 

[Ty1on73]

I don't think they are the same, at least that has not been my experience, despite what it says the solutuon contains. I started a thread a while back talking about how I read a study that there was tremendous inconsistency with compounded testosterone, but it was with compounded creams & gels. I think so many guys on this site have done a great job at getting their protocol dialed in, and as a result very rarely, if ever, change where they get their testosterone from. I was going to a TRT clinic for weekly injections and they changed compounding pharmacies a couple times. I could always tell and would bring it to their attention, as they didn't tell their patients (why would they, testosterone is testosterone). I've been self injecting with Perrigo for 3 months and have had really hard erections when I wake up but very little strength gain in the gym. I switched to Westward 10 days ago and have had no morning wood for about a week, yet I seem to be much stronger in the gym. Haven't you guys taken different drugs, brand name and generic, and since the ingredients on the side of the bottle are identical, you go against your better judgement and choose the lesser priced generic, only to find it doesn't work near as good as you remember the brand name working in the past. Some of you guys have this down so well and feel great so there's no need for you to alter anything, but if you tried T from a different source, your experience may be similar mine.

James, for what its worth, I haven't been on TRT for very long and all four of the 10Mil viles I have had have all been the same. However, before I found I had low T, I was being treated for adult ADHD and depression. After she had given me the prescriptions, I recall my psychiatrist telling me to make sure that I called her if CVS gave me a generic because she would slightly up my dosage. Her reasoning was that generics tend to meet the minimum FDA requirements and use a filler for the rest.

I hope you are able to figure it out- it sounds like Perrigo has a Viagra effect.

 

[James]

I started on Watson then went to Perrigo because my insurance covers the small 1ml bottles. I get good morning wood and my strength in the gym is going up.

Vitamin C - Perrigo is outstanding for morning wood. At least for me it is.

Ty1on73 - We're your four 10ml vials from the same company?

 

[Ty1on73]

Yes mine are generic from Sun Pharma (India) I get them from CVS for $7. (through insurance)

http://www.sunpharma.com/node/120826

 

[Ty1on73]

I compared both Westward, Perrigo to my Sun Pharma (200mg/1 mL) and they are the same each use cottonseed as a carrier. I guess make sure you warm and shake them up and that your 1mL and 10 MmL viles are both for 200mg/1 mL or 100mg/1 mL.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Vitamin C - Perrigo is outstanding for morning wood. At least for me it is.

Ty1on73 - We're your four 10ml vials from the same company?

Haven't noticed a big difference between Watson and Perrigo however, I did notice morning would was more prominent.

 

[The Great Oz]

For Me I was on the West-Ward with Awesome results for 4 months then Express-Scripts switch mine for the Perrigo and my numbers plummeted at my next blood panel. Plus the Perrigo has some other excipient in it that makes it "leak" out of injection site immediately upon injection. Disappointing

Have any of you guys used either Westward or Perrigo. I've been using 1ml vials of Perrigo for a while and just got a 10ml vial of Westward. I know the ingredients are the same, but I can feel a difference. Anyone have any experience with these brands?