Warning about Indian Enclomiphene tablets

[Forty2]

Just a heads up about the "enclomiphene" sold in India under the brand of "En-Clofert".
When I sent an email enquiry to alldaygeneric.com to ask if they accept prescriptions from foreign doctors, they quickly replied that they do and that En-Clofert was in stock and ready to ship to me as soon as they received a copy of my prescription and payment.
I then asked them in my next email if En-Clofert was 100% Enclomiphene or if it contains some Zuclomiphene. More than one week has gone by and they have not replied to this email. Three days ago I sent them another email with the same question, just in case they did not receive my other email and they haven't replied to that one either.
On the photo that they sent me of En-Clofert, "Clomiphene Citrate 50mg" is printed on the back of the blister pack, which makes it confusing. I believe that En-Clofert is in fact really just clomiphene citrate, or at best contains just a little less zuclomiphene than clomiphene citrate, so should be avoided by those wanting to buy only Enclomiphene Citrate.

 

[dikow]

Thanks for the warning bro. Did you find any reliable source for enclo?

 

[Forty2]

Thanks for the warning bro. Did you find any reliable source for enclo?

Not yet, unfortunately.

 

[Alessandro27]

Not yet, unfortunately.

Hello, do you have found a good legit source of enclomiphene?
I have to start my HPTA recovery protocol.
Thank you very much

 

[Forty2]

Hello, do you have found a good legit source of enclomiphene?
I have to start my HPTA recovery protocol.
Thank you very much

No I did not continue my search for enclomiphene. I have read many reports from guys complaining of joint/bone pain from enclomiphene due to the fact that it acts as anti-estrogen everywhere in the body. This is not something I want to risk as I already struggle with such issues.

 

[Johnny Test]

I think some research companies are carrying it. That’s alway hit or miss though.

 

[Johnny Test]

En-Clofert 50 (Enclomiphene citrate) - ExpressPCT

<ul> <li>Active ingredient- Enclomiphene Citrate</li> <li>Manufacturer- Maneesh Pharmaceuticals</li> <li>Strength- 50mg</li> <li>Dosage type- Tablet</li> <li>Quantity- 5 tabs</li> </ul>

expresspct.com

 

[Cataceous]

... I have read many reports from guys complaining of joint/bone pain from enclomiphene due to the fact that it acts as anti-estrogen everywhere in the body. ...

If enclomiphene acted as an "anti-estrogen everywhere in the body" it would not be a SERM. The "S" stands for "selective". The fact that clomiphene acts largely as an estrogen in bone and liver suggests that enclomiphene is at worst neutral in these tissues. Clearly enclomiphene is easily capable of overriding zuclomiphene at certain estrogen receptors, such as in the hypothalamus and pituitary.

An explanation that's been floated for these problematic anecdotal reports is that a dubious source of enclomiphene was used, and an aromatase inhibitor was substituted for actual enclomiphene. I can't find the post now, but someone was saying that blood work frequently supported this proposition, with estradiol appearing to be suppressed.

In any case, my experience with Tailor Made's enclomiphene was without such problems, and estradiol was definitely not suppressed.

See also:

Template:Tissue-specific estrogenic and antiestrogenic activity of SERMs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Forty2]

If enclomiphene acted as an "anti-estrogen everywhere in the body" it would not be a SERM. The "S" stands for "selective". The fact that clomiphene acts largely as an estrogen in bone and liver suggests that enclomiphene is at worst neutral in these tissues. Clearly enclomiphene is easily capable of overriding zuclomiphene at certain estrogen receptors, such as in the hypothalamus and pituitary.

An explanation that's been floated for these problematic anecdotal reports is that a dubious source of enclomiphene was used, and an aromatase inhibitor was substituted for actual enclomiphene. I can't find the post now, but someone was saying that blood work frequently supported this proposition, with estradiol appearing to be suppressed.

In any case, my experience with Tailor Made's enclomiphene was without such problems, and estradiol was definitely not suppressed.

See also:

Template:Tissue-specific estrogenic and antiestrogenic activity of SERMs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ok that's good to know. Unfortunately, I live outside the US, so sourcing legitimate enclomiphene is a challenge

 

[Westin]

Every time I used AllDayChemist I had to have my credit card replaced, 3 times. And, the quality on the Cialis was substandard.