Vince's Labs from 4/15/24

[Vince]

My protocol, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg every third day and no AI.

Pregnenolone 10 mg and 10 mg of DHEA.

My last injection before labs, about 27 1/2 hrs.

Labs are from LabCorp.

I lowered my dhea from 25 mg to 10 mg daily, it may have lowered my E2. Used black cumin extract and ashwagandha for sleep, it may have lowered my dht, I did "not" get the Equilibrium Ultrafiltration for testing free testosterone. My shbg was higher.

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Testosterone, Serum 1254 ng/dL range 264-916
Free Testosterone 19.9 ng/dL range 6.6 -18.1
DHT 44 ng/dL (no range on results)
DHEA-Sulfate 306.0 H ug/dL range 30.9-295.6 (age adjusted)
Estradiol, Sensitive 15.1.0 pg/mL range 8.0-35.0
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 61.5 nmol/L range 19.3-76.4
Hematocrit 47.6 % range 37.5-51.0
Hemoglobin 16.1 g/dL range 13.0-17.7
Albumin 4.2 g/dL range 3.9 - 4.9

I'm still injecting shallow IM and Subq.
It's been over 7 years since I had to donate blood.
I'm having good workouts, sex and libido, no issues.

I'm having my consultation on May 11th. Thinking of injecting T every third day. It may help to lower my shbg?

 

[over60andusingtrt]

Hi Vince, I'm new here and have read many of your posts and always find them extremely informative and helpful. How important is HCG for sexual function (not libido, arousal) and where do you get yours? I live in CA and it seems to banned here.

Steve

 

[Vince]

Hi Vince, I'm new here and have read many of your posts and always find them extremely informative and helpful. How important is HCG for sexual function (not libido, arousal) and where do you get yours? I live in CA and it seems to banned here.

Steve

I like how it keeps my boys full.

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[over60andusingtrt]

I'm sorry, was that an answer? Reliable Rx? I can't find HCG on the links to that site.

 

[Vince]

I'm sorry, was that an answer? Reliable Rx? I can't find HCG on the links to that site.

I apologize for the confusion. Yes I buy my hcg from reliable RX

 

[over60andusingtrt]

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[KR99]

My protocol, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg every third day and no AI.

Pregnenolone 10 mg and 10 mg of DHEA.

My last injection before labs, about 27 1/2 hrs.

Labs are from LabCorp.

I lowered my dhea from 25 mg to 10 mg daily, it may have lowered my E2. Used black cumin extract and ashwagandha for sleep, it may have lowered my dht, I did "not" get the Equilibrium Ultrafiltration for testing free testosterone. My shbg was higher.

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Testosterone, Serum 1254 ng/dL range 264-916
Free Testosterone 19.9 ng/dL range 6.6 -18.1
DHT 44 ng/dL (no range on results)
DHEA-Sulfate 306.0 H ug/dL range 30.9-295.6 (age adjusted)
Estradiol, Sensitive 15.1.0 pg/mL range 8.0-35.0
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 61.5 nmol/L range 19.3-76.4
Hematocrit 47.6 % range 37.5-51.0
Hemoglobin 16.1 g/dL range 13.0-17.7
Albumin 4.2 g/dL range 3.9 - 4.9

I'm still injecting shallow IM and Subq.
It's been over 7 years since I had to donate blood.
I'm having good workouts, sex and libido, no issues.

I'm having my consultation on May 11th. Thinking of injecting T every third day. It may help to lower my shbg?

Hey Vince…my protocol has bn 15mg of test daily subs…and all my numbers were great last August 2023
question on adding Nandrolone for joint health.
I tried Nandrolone for a period of 12 wks and felt great with less stiffness from arthritis. But at 12wk following lab…my hematocrit, cholesterol, and testosterone numbers were extremely elevated.
Have you are anyone tried nandrolone and had a similar experience?

 

[Gman86]

Hey Vince…my protocol has bn 15mg of test daily subs…and all my numbers were great last August 2023
question on adding Nandrolone for joint health.
I tried Nandrolone for a period of 12 wks and felt great with less stiffness from arthritis. But at 12wk following lab…my hematocrit, cholesterol, and testosterone numbers were extremely elevated.
Have you are anyone tried nandrolone and had a similar experience?

Can you post those labs while on nandrolone? Preferably both ur before adding nandorlone labs, as well as ur labs while on nandrolone. Also, what was ur protocol when u had the nandrolone in there?

Ur testosterone levels only went up because u had the non sensitive total testosterone panel done. It picks up the nandrolone as if it’s test. So ur test levels weren’t actually elevated. So the whole elevated test levels thing u can just dismiss all together

Nandrolone can raise HCT levels. But adding in more of any androgen/ AAS will pretty much do the same, including simply upping ur test dosage

And raised cholesterol is a pretty vague statement. I assume it raised ur LDL?

 

[Vince]

Hey Vince…my protocol has bn 15mg of test daily subs…and all my numbers were great last August 2023
question on adding Nandrolone for joint health.
I tried Nandrolone for a period of 12 wks and felt great with less stiffness from arthritis. But at 12wk following lab…my hematocrit, cholesterol, and testosterone numbers were extremely elevated.
Have you are anyone tried nandrolone and had a similar experience?

I had a similar experience with nandrolone. Higher HCT, worse cholesterol particle numbers and testosterone levels were extremely high. Even though I felt great nandrolone, I stopped taking it because I was concerned of my heart health.

I did get night sweats. First time ever.

 

[Steve78]

I had a similar experience with nandrolone. Higher HCT, worse cholesterol particle numbers and testosterone levels were extremely high. Even though I felt great nandrolone, I stopped taking it because I was concerned of my heart health.

I did get night sweats. First time ever.

What about the particle numbers? You checked small dense ldl particles etc?

 

[Seagal]

My protocol, 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily, 500 iu of hcg every third day and no AI.

Pregnenolone 10 mg and 10 mg of DHEA.

My last injection before labs, about 27 1/2 hrs.

Labs are from LabCorp.

I lowered my dhea from 25 mg to 10 mg daily, it may have lowered my E2. Used black cumin extract and ashwagandha for sleep, it may have lowered my dht, I did "not" get the Equilibrium Ultrafiltration for testing free testosterone. My shbg was higher.

​

Testosterone, Serum 1254 ng/dL range 264-916
Free Testosterone 19.9 ng/dL range 6.6 -18.1
DHT 44 ng/dL (no range on results)
DHEA-Sulfate 306.0 H ug/dL range 30.9-295.6 (age adjusted)
Estradiol, Sensitive 15.1.0 pg/mL range 8.0-35.0
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 61.5 nmol/L range 19.3-76.4
Hematocrit 47.6 % range 37.5-51.0
Hemoglobin 16.1 g/dL range 13.0-17.7
Albumin 4.2 g/dL range 3.9 - 4.9

I'm still injecting shallow IM and Subq.
It's been over 7 years since I had to donate blood.
I'm having good workouts, sex and libido, no issues.

I'm having my consultation on May 11th. Thinking of injecting T every third day. It may help to lower my shbg?

Why would you want to lower your shbg? Less frequent injections might raise your E2 which is surprisingly low even with hcg.

 

[Vince]

What about the particle numbers? You checked small dense ldl

I have a complete cholesterol particle numbers done every 6 months. I have high testosterone and low estrogen.

 

[Vince]

Why would you want to lower your shbg? Less frequent injections might raise your E2 which is surprisingly low even with hcg.

It's nice to have more free testosterone and I wish I had higher estrogen.

At least that's the way I feel. Even though I feel good just to way my levels are.

 

[Gman86]

It's nice to have more free testosterone and I wish I had higher estrogen.

At least that's the way I feel. Even though I feel good just to way my levels are.

What’s ur SHBG and E2 levels again Vince?

 

[Vince]

What’s ur SHBG and E2 levels again Vince?

Estradiol, Sensitive 15.1.0 pg/mL range 8.0-35.0
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 61.5 nmol/L range 19.3-76.4

 

[Steve78]

I have a complete cholesterol particle numbers done every 6 months. I have high testosterone and low estrogen.

So the nandrolone increased the small dense particles of ldl? If so by how much?

 

[Vince]

So the together unless increased the small dense particles of ldl? If so by how much?

Yes for me it did. I wish I could find my labs from when I used nandrolone. I need to do some work and find the labs. Because My small LDL particles were really out of control.

 

[Steve78]

Yes for me it did. I wish I could find my labs from when I used nandrolone. I need to do some work and find the labs. Because My small LDL particles were really out of control.

All from 100 mg weekly of nandrolone? How long were u on it etc?

 

[Gman86]

Yes for me it did. I wish I could find my labs from when I used nandrolone. I need to do some work and find the labs. Because My small LDL particles were really out of control.

I’d still love to see this. Along with the same panel on a test base. Would love to see the comparison

 

[Vince]

All from 100 mg weekly of nandrolone? How long were u on it etc?

No, I did daily injections. 20 mg of testosterone one day and the next 20 mg of nandrolone. So I average 70 mg of both weekly.

My First Labs With Nandrolone

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