Very high libido when I miss a dose...

[testguy53]

I inject 20 mg Test-C, 250 IU HCG, and 11.25 IU urofollitropin every other day. Been doing this now for at least a year. Probably closer to two.

I consistently notice that if I miss a day, my libido seems to peak. But after 2.5 to 3 miss days I feel like I start to crash.

Any idea what this could mean?

 

[Vince]

Interesting protocol. Any chance you can post your labs. Including LH and FSH.

 

[smokedsalmon]

I would think maybe your E2 is spiking and then clearing out a little, but that's a total shot in the dark. Have you ever tried a lower dose of T to see if maybe you're on too much currently?

 

[testguy53]

Link to my last post with labs. New labs coming soon.
My most recent blood-work and a link to my past blood-work post:

 

[Systemlord]

I inject 20 mg Test-C, 250 IU HCG, and 11.25 IU urofollitropin every other day. Been doing this now for at least a year. Probably closer to two.

I consistently notice that if I miss a day, my libido seems to peak. But after 2.5 to 3 miss days I feel like I start to crash.

Any idea what this could mean?

Maybe you need more fluctuations and levels are too steady.

 

[sebastian_r]

I think that the daily & weekly doses throwen around by the "experts" are just too high for some. Adding HCG and AI to 100-200mg Test/week, it's already a year round mini steroid cycle instead of TRT.

4-6mg/day test cyp made me feel best I ever had on TRT, my libido was off the charts. But got some side-effects that I don't have with test prop. I'm currently taking around 5-6mg test prop daily and I feel damn good.

Above 10mg/day the sides starting to take over no matter what ancilaries or protocol I use.

 

[Straightnasty34]

I think that the daily & weekly doses throwen around by the "experts" are just too high for some. Adding HCG and AI to 100-200mg Test/week, it's already a year round mini steroid cycle instead of TRT.

4-6mg/day test cyp made me feel best I ever had on TRT, my libido was off the charts. But got some side-effects that I don't have with test prop. I'm currently taking around 5-6mg test prop daily and I feel damn good.

Above 10mg/day the sides starting to take over no matter what ancilaries or protocol I use.

what do your labs look like on 4-6mgs a day ? please post

and what does an AI have to do with being a mini steroid cycle ??

 

[smokedsalmon]

I think that the daily & weekly doses throwen around by the "experts" are just too high for some. Adding HCG and AI to 100-200mg Test/week, it's already a year round mini steroid cycle instead of TRT.

4-6mg/day test cyp made me feel best I ever had on TRT, my libido was off the charts. But got some side-effects that I don't have with test prop. I'm currently taking around 5-6mg test prop daily and I feel damn good.

Above 10mg/day the sides starting to take over no matter what ancilaries or protocol I use.

What sort of sides? I've been curious if the other esters would work better, but it's too early on to determine what's a side effect and what's just me adapting.

Personally so far it seems like my libido was better at 150/week of t-cyp than it is now at 200mg, but 200 has actually helped my erectile function to the point where I'm scared of taking Cialis. And I'm still interested in sex 1-2x/day, not 5x/day like on the lower dose.

 

[sebastian_r]

what do your labs look like on 4-6mgs a day ? please post

and what does an AI have to do with being a mini steroid cycle ??

For me there is no real feasable way to measure a stable value on propionate. It will fluctuate several hundred points within hours (have low SHBG). I've stopped caring about labs on short ester for this reason years ago, going only by feeling / side effects.

AI can add add a couple hundred points to T-levels via negative feedback loop.

What sort of sides? I've been curious if the other esters would work better, but it's too early on to determine what's a side effect and what's just me adapting.

Skin related íssues, bloodpressure / tingling in hands / feets.

 

[smokedsalmon]

For me there is no real feasable way to measure a stable value on propionate. It will fluctuate several hundred points within hours. I've stopped caring about labs on short ester for this reason years ago, going only by feeling / side effects.

AI can add add a couple hundred points to T-levels via negative feedback loop.


Skin related íssues, bloodpressure / tingling in hands / feets.

Ah gotcha, I got lucky somehow and even with a history of moderate acne, TRT seems to have improved my skin.

Does T prop feel any differently being shorter acting? I read one guy somewhere say he could "feel" every injection, but I find that would wear off in time, and that you're just chasing something then rather than getting better.

 

[sebastian_r]

Ah gotcha, I got lucky somehow and even with a history of moderate acne, TRT seems to have improved my skin.

Does T prop feel any differently being shorter acting? I read one guy somewhere say he could "feel" every injection, but I find that would wear off in time, and that you're just chasing something then rather than getting better.

Yes I feel every injection and how the hormone starts working in the body. You feel estradiol and DHT going up, libido / energy increasing as well. Think a long the lines of drinking a strong black coffee or eating lots of sugar. You realize the impact on your body within minutes.

I would propably prefer stability and having a stable 5 out of 10 instead of fluctuating between 3 to 7 during the day. Though I can't make long ester work no matter what.

 

[Cataceous]

For me there is no real feasable way to measure a stable value on propionate. It will fluctuate several hundred points within hours (have low SHBG). I've stopped caring about labs on short ester for this reason years ago, going only by feeling / side effects.
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I'n finding this too: the trough values are quite variable, probably being very sensitive to injection timing and locations. I now think anyone using propionate should have previously measured a dose-response relationship using a long-lived ester. Otherwise the unexpectedly low troughs might be misleading and result in selecting too high of a dose.

Yes I feel every injection and how the hormone starts working in the body. You feel estradiol and DHT going up, libido / energy increasing as well. ...

I don't notice this at all. Currently taking 9 mg daily.

 

[D007Domo]

Link to my last post with labs. New labs coming soon.
My most recent blood-work and a link to my past blood-work post:

Very interesting. I am curious about your FSH levels - did you get those new labs yet? IS your current dose 11.5iu FSH EOD?

 

[trt reznor]

I inject 20 mg Test-C, 250 IU HCG, and 11.25 IU urofollitropin every other day. Been doing this now for at least a year. Probably closer to two.

I consistently notice that if I miss a day, my libido seems to peak. But after 2.5 to 3 miss days I feel like I start to crash.

Any idea what this could mean?

I think it’s maybe likely you’re slightly above your sweet spot. Right now I dose 150mg split in two injections- tues and fri. I feel good to great most of the week but I feel my best on mondays, which is the furthest day from a shot in my routine. I’m backing the dose off 10mg per week at a time, and will give it 4 to 6 weeks to see how I adjust. Hopefully this is one of the last minor tweaks I will need. If you try this route, please keep us posted.

 

[M.J]

I use to do EOD switching to twice a week increase fluctuation and see how it goes, but currently I am only on HCG 500 EOD and until now I like it I stopped trt didn’t restart yet I may do clomid next week but until now I am loving the HCG.

 

[testguy53]

Very interesting. I am curious about your FSH levels - did you get those new labs yet? IS your current dose 11.5iu FSH EOD?

Here is a link to my newest post with my new labs: New blood tests. High estrogen? The reason I’m having low libido?