TRT with HCG

[New2Trt]

Hello, Im 31 and have had testosterone levels under 170 up until i started on Clomid about 5-6 months ago. My level did reach over 600 in about 6 weeks. This had me super happy and noticed i was feeling a bit better overall. Unfortunately I can't say I feel that much better though and I've noticed my hair falling out, so im stopping the Clomid. Planning on getting on trt with hcg in the next few week after I freeze some of my kids. My doctor mentioned injections every other week and 2500-3000iu of HCG per week. Noticed on here that most people don't take more than 1000iu's a week. Keeping things working is important to me and wanna make sure that type of dose isn't hurting me and a lower dose doesn't stop things from working. Any accurate advice is appreciated!

 

[Sean Mosher]

I think Dr. Saya posted a few days ago a great article on HCG and dosing.
Browse through the posts from the last few days and check it out.
I found it very informative.

 

[ERO]

Injecting Test every 2 weeks is the fast track to failure for TRT. The best TRT docs have guys injecting every 3.5 days for a reason...and HCG has a half life of around 33 hours so injecting that once a week also makes no sense what so ever.

Honestly, you need a new doctor that understands TRT.

 

[Vince Carter]

Injecting Test every 2 weeks is the fast track to failure for TRT. The best TRT docs have guys injecting every 3.5 days for a reason...and HCG has a half life of around 33 hours so injecting that once a week also makes no sense what so ever.

Honestly, you need a new doctor that understands TRT.

Agreed 1000%

 

[New2Trt]

The HCG would be 2500-3000 a week given over 3 injections.

 

[ERO]

That would be OK on its own, but if you are injecting T as well every 2 weeks then its not going to work well at all.

 

[Vince]

What is the best dose of HCG? Dr Saya presents two case studies https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...a-presents-two-case-studies&p=32423#post32423
The Use of HCG to Prevent / Reverse Testicular Shrinkage and Preserve Fertility
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...e-Testicular-Shrinkage-and-Preserve-Fertility

 

[JPB]

Hopefully he will be monitoring your estrogen along with everything else

 

[CoastWatcher]

Every other week dosing is a ticket to TRT failure. Testosterone's half-life is such that at two weeks, you'll have nothing left in the tank. Doctors familiar with contemporary TRT protocols favour frequent, smaller doses, say, every 3.5 days, every other day, or (in extreme cases, I am one of them) every day. These schedules work.

 

[Vince]

 

[recurve6]

Good info Vince! Maybe someone could explain exactly what half life means?

 

[ERO]

Half life is the time when the dosage falls to half of where it started. Say you inject 100mg of Test Prop - in 2-3 days you have 50mg left in your system. 2-3 days after that you have 25mg left.

 

[Vince]

Good info Vince! Maybe someone could explain exactly what half life means?

Testosterone Cypionate, on average, peaks in serum about 72 hours after injection and has about a 6 day half life. Meaning half of the drug is already metabolized

 

[Gene Devine]

The HCG would be 2500-3000 a week given over 3 injections.

These levels are going to blast your estrogen right through the roof!

 

[Gene Devine]

Vince, can you make this table a Sticky in the testosterone forum? This is excellent.

 

[midlifealpha]

These levels are going to blast your estrogen right through the roof!

What does the HCG amounts have to do with Estrogen?

 

[CoastWatcher]

What does the HCG amounts have to do with Estrogen?

HCG can, typically does, boost estradiol levels.

 

[Gene Devine]

What does the HCG amounts have to do with Estrogen?

HCG can/will aroamatase into Estrogen usually within the testes and the problem with that is some studies have shown it can't be controlled very well with an AI as well.

 

[midlifealpha]

HCG can/will aroamatase into Estrogen usually within the testes and the problem with that is some studies have shown it can't be controlled very well with an AI as well.

With the information posted by Dr. Saya I'm concerned that I might not be taking it correctly. If you happen to look at my thread on bloodwork. I've been taking 150IU per day which is probably not too much but when I first got it, I was probably more in the 20-25 range mostly because I hadn't had it for a year. However that was only about a month and I've been steady at the 15 mark daily for at least 2-3 months so I doubt that caused it.