TRT - Painful Lower back cramps during exercise

[J1212]

New to site and have no clue if Im posting my question to the right place but desperatly need some advice so if ive posted this in the wrong place can someone please advise where I should post my question? If this is the right spot then please see question below. Thanks in advance for any advice provided!

Started TRT and 3 weeks in feel sooo much better. However, I love to run and have been experiencing terrible lower back cramps. Entire lower back tightens up to the point I have to completely stop running.

Im on 160 mg test cyp. a week, .25 mg anastrozol 2 times a week and 250 iu hcg EOD, ZMA at night, Animal pack Flex supps. Third week in libido is back, amazing morning erections, overall sense of well being better then I have felt in years.

Before starting TRT total test 203 (im 36), E2 10, everything else normal range. I will get labs again next week however based on how I currently feel I believe estrogen and test to be in a very good range. My only frustration is the very painful back pumps (lower back cramps when running). Any advise would be great or if anyone else has experienced this from TRT. Thanks a bunch

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Take magnesium ASAP and hydrate a lot. I also take Naproxen for a few days.

Symptoms and Causes of Magnesium Deficiency
https://www.excelmale.com/content.php?252-Symptoms-and-Causes-of-Magnesium-Deficiency&new_comment

 

[J1212]

Your the man Nelson! Thanks for such a quick reply. I currently am taking ZMA every night which includes 450 mg of Magnesium. Do you think that is not enough? I have to admit the only whater I drink is with my daily protien shake. How important is H2O and how much would you recommend daily?

 

[J1212]

Holy crap your a genius! lol. I just the read the article you sent. Simple carbs are an alkalies heel for me and my cholesterol came in at 120 which is 2 numbers away from being high. In addition I drink a fair amount of coffee and take an anti depressant (for sleep not depression). Pretty much everything the article describes that I shouldn't do I have been doing lol. I will include a B12 and B5 supp in addition to more magnesium. I did start taking ZMA which has 450 mg Magnesium about 2 weeks ago but do you think I should increase the amount of magnesium? Thanks so much for the article!

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I have suffered from back spams on and off for 30 years.
Hydration is super important. Do you take any diuretics?

Here is an interesting post on the issue:

muscle cramping

 

[J1212]

yeah I actually took Ritalin for 3 years and stopped 2 weeks ago so i imagine thats probably the master of all diuretics considering its an amphetamine lol. However, while on Ritalin I never had the back pumps, they didnt start until after I stopped the Ritalin.

 

[Vince Carter]

Are you using Tadalafil/Cialis, by chance?

 

[Vince]

also creatine can cause cramps

 

[J1212]

Thanks for the reply's guys. I am not taking Cialis or any ED medication and also do not take creatine. Below is info about labs prior to TRT, everything I am taking (meds and supps) and then what I just went out and purchased to help with lower back cramps. Any suggestions you might have that I can add to my supplements or dosing change suggestions would be great. In addition, I will continue to update this thread over time to keep the forum posted on improvements or setbacks to help any future individuals that may experience back cramps while on TRT.

Initial Labs
Age - 36
Total T - 203 - Low
E2 (not sensitive) - 10
Cholesterol - 195
Blood Glucose Serum - 127 - High (dr said to see how trt and diet improves before diagnosing me diabetic)
TSH - 2.83
LH - 5.5
CBC - Was all in normal range

Dosing for last 3 weeks

Prescription
-Test. Cyp. 80 mg 2 times a week (160 mg total weekly)
-HCG 250 iu EOD
-Anastrozal .25 1 time per week
-Seroquel 25 mg (for sleep issues)
Supps
-ZMA Every night
-Animal Pack Flex Multi Vitamin Pack ED
-4 scoops of whey protein ED

Changes I made Moving Forward

Prescription
-Test. Cyp. 80 mg 2 times a week (160 mg total weekly)
-HCG 250 iu EOD
-Anastrozal .25 (2 time per week)
-Seroquel 25 mg (for sleep issues)
Supps
-ZMA Every night
-Animal Pack Flex Multi Vitamin Pack ED
-4 scoops of whey protein ED
-Electrolyte Stamina Power Pack ED
-Magnesium Malate 425 mg ED
-Liquid Vitamin D3 ED
-Omega 3 Fish Oil ED
-Ubiquinol 100 mg ED
-L-carnitine 500 mg ED
-Pantothenic Acid Vitamin B5 500 mg ED
-B12 shot (just ordered need to establish dosing)
-B6 Shot (just ordered need to establish dosing)

 

[Vince Carter]

Id lean much more to a physical problem than any thing you're taking, or not taking, at this point.

 

[J1212]

Yeah im not seeing many people post issues with cramping as a result of trt. I thought I would ask because several years ago a tried a pro-hormone (only cycle I ever tried) and it caused such sever back pumps that I had to stop after 2 weeks. So when I experienced the same thing after starting trt I thought they may be related. Im an avid runner and never experienced the issue any other time. I made some supplement change and diet changes so I will see if the issue improves. Thanks again for the responses, much appreciated.