The difference between erections at 20 and 70

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This is an interesting article, and addresses something that ultimately can't be solved by additional testosterone. This isn't really about libido, but purely physical reaction.



My personal experience was that TRT at age 59-63 did bring me back to the description of erections in your 20s, but starting over with TRT now that I am 66 I would say I am at late 40s early 50s. It’s only in the first 8 weeks, so time will tell how it improves.



My point is age matters and at some point, we won’t get morning wood or feel like a young goat no matter how we fine tune our protocol.

Another aspect to this. If I go to my regular doctor complaining I don't get morning wood, I can see from this description that nearly all doctors would consider this normal at age 66. I would likely have to say I have zero libido for it to even register with most doctors as an atypical symptom of aging.

What isn’t clear, how old is too old, and what can we expect from TRT after age 60?



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The difference between erections at 20 and 70

Whether you’re hitting puberty and ready for 'lift off’ or planning to retire and 'failing to launch', experts provide the cold hard facts on erections as you age.

Have you ever wondered what to expect from your erections as you age? Dr Andrew Siegel, a urologist and avid blogger, has the answers.

Dr Siegel, who is an Assistant Clinical Professor of Surgery at the Rutgers-New Jersey Medical School, writes that ageing can be quite unkind, and unfortunately “Father Time does not spare your sexual function".

Erections before puberty

Dr Ferdi Marais, a urologist from Busamed Private Hospital in Somerset West, says that it is common for boys who haven't yet reached puberty to get erections. He says this is because an erection is a neuro-vascular phenomenon which can be psychogenic, reflexive or nocturnal in origin.

1) A psychogenic erection is caused by audio-visual stimuli or fantasy.

2) A reflexive erection is caused by touch or irritation of the penis or its nerve supply.

3) A nocturnal erection is a normal erection experienced during deep (REM) sleep.

“It’s normally the last two types that are seen in pre-pubertal children,” Dr Marais says.

Erections through the ages

After 25 years of experience as an urologist and almost 60 years of experience as a man, Dr Siegel writes about the subtle changes in sexual function men may experience as they age. Here is how he defines erections during the different stages of a man's life:

20s

Your libido is prodigious and therefore very little stimulation is required to achieve an erection. You might even get erections when you don’t want them. However, the downside of this is the possibility of premature-ejaculation.

30s

Your sex drive remains vigorous, but it is not quite as all-consuming as in your twenties. You can still get quality erections, but they may not occur as spontaneously.

40s

After the age of 40, changes in sexual function become more obvious. You can usually get a pretty good quality erection, but it now often requires physical stimulation.

50s

Sex is still important, but the desire is typically diminished. Nighttime and morning erections become few and far between.

60s

Your testosterone level has plummeted over the decades, leading to a diminished sex drive. Erections are still obtainable with some coaxing and coercion. Although erectile dysfunction (ED) is not inevitable, it does become more prevalent with each passing decade.

70s

When asked about his sexual function, one of Dr Siegel’s 70-something-year-old patients replied: “Retired… and I’m really upset that I’m not even upset.” The quality of your erections drops noticeably after the age of 70 and spontaneous erections are a rare occurrence.

Luckily, Dr Ravi Kacker, a urologist and fellow in male sexual medicine at Harvard-affiliated Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, says that it is a common misconception that erections are necessary for male orgasm. Even a limp penis can be stimulated to orgasm, so it is still possible for you to experience sexual intimacy.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Er...rence-between-erections-at-20-and-70-20170322

I think this is overly pessimistic but also in the end realistic.
 
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Interesting article. Dr. Kacker, mentioned in the article, was the first doctor I saw at Abraham Morgantaler’s clinic in Boston and he prescribed the TRT that I have been on for over two years. He told me “I can get your libido back, but not the erections.” He was right, but daily 5 mg Cialis solves that problem nicely.

My experience is that the erections feel great, but I have a lot more control over them than I ever did. The “medically enhanced” erection is as good, if not better, than in my 30s. Takes some strategy, but worth it. What helps is that I don’t masturbate as I think it wastes the erections and conditions the penis of an older guy to need a lot of stimulation to have an orgasm. I have a very willing wife who excites the hell out of me and that helps considerably. We decide in the morning if we are planning sex that night and the build up, flirting, and fantasizing makes for a great night. Having our children grown and out of the house has made this greatest time of our marriage. With planning, time, and patience, the slow decline can be almost unnoticeable.
 
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Mountain Man I do agree.
At 58 and being off of a TRT protocol I have found that the interest in sex has reduced consiserably.
I also agree that the “medically enhanced” erection is as good as younger days. I use Viagra at 25mg and it does the trick.
I am in the process of rebooting mt TRT slowly to get the interest back to where it was before.
Sex has always been important to my wife and I and we want to go the distance with all the sex we can have!!
 
I just turned 55 this past spring. I started having slight ED issues a couple of years ago. I started taking 25 mg of generic viagra I picked up in Mexico. Rock hard erections if not taken around a meal. It also seemed to give me a bit more control over orgasms. I moved to 5 mg of clialis daily a year or so ago to get around the timing of food, we often have sex first thing in morning on weekends. So daily dosing kept me from having to get up early and take a pill and then go back to bed.
I had back pain for a week or so. But it tore up my stomach, like in acid reflux. Also the erections with daily 5mg were not as rock hard as with 25 mg of viagra.
Started with Defy last dec and they put me on HCG and DHEA. My E2 had always been 15 is. Since the edition of the 2 items in my protocol my E2 has gone to 32. Erection is still good, but sensitivity is diminished. Sometimes I can go and go and then just never finish, or finally loose erection. Even with 5 mg of claims and 25 mg of viagra. I have dropped the HCG and DHEA just last week to get my E2 back in line.
I have struggled with being able to finish midweek evenings, even before hcg and dhea. I just chalk it up to being 55 and having been up since 4am and working 11 hour days. We still get after it, and it turns out really well for my wife, which is what makes me happy anyway.
 
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I'm 57 and have been very fortunate. I've always had great erection quality my whole life. I have always been able to get and maintain erections easily. The biggest difference as I age is the refractory period gets longer. For me, TRT didn't change my erection quality. I had super low T levels and still had great erections. A few months ago I started taking 5mg of cialis daily. This protocol definitely hardened my erections, but the biggest difference was my ability to maintain my erection for a long period after orgasm. Without the cialis, I go soft pretty quickly after finishing. Sadly I had to quit the cialis because it caused silent migraines!
 
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