DragonBits
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This is an interesting article, and addresses something that ultimately can't be solved by additional testosterone. This isn't really about libido, but purely physical reaction.
My personal experience was that TRT at age 59-63 did bring me back to the description of erections in your 20s, but starting over with TRT now that I am 66 I would say I am at late 40s early 50s. It’s only in the first 8 weeks, so time will tell how it improves.
My point is age matters and at some point, we won’t get morning wood or feel like a young goat no matter how we fine tune our protocol.
Another aspect to this. If I go to my regular doctor complaining I don't get morning wood, I can see from this description that nearly all doctors would consider this normal at age 66. I would likely have to say I have zero libido for it to even register with most doctors as an atypical symptom of aging.
What isn’t clear, how old is too old, and what can we expect from TRT after age 60?
ARTICLE: ==============================================
The difference between erections at 20 and 70
Whether you’re hitting puberty and ready for 'lift off’ or planning to retire and 'failing to launch', experts provide the cold hard facts on erections as you age.
Have you ever wondered what to expect from your erections as you age? Dr Andrew Siegel, a urologist and avid blogger, has the answers.
Dr Siegel, who is an Assistant Clinical Professor of Surgery at the Rutgers-New Jersey Medical School, writes that ageing can be quite unkind, and unfortunately “Father Time does not spare your sexual function".
Erections before puberty
Dr Ferdi Marais, a urologist from Busamed Private Hospital in Somerset West, says that it is common for boys who haven't yet reached puberty to get erections. He says this is because an erection is a neuro-vascular phenomenon which can be psychogenic, reflexive or nocturnal in origin.
1) A psychogenic erection is caused by audio-visual stimuli or fantasy.
2) A reflexive erection is caused by touch or irritation of the penis or its nerve supply.
3) A nocturnal erection is a normal erection experienced during deep (REM) sleep.
“It’s normally the last two types that are seen in pre-pubertal children,” Dr Marais says.
Erections through the ages
After 25 years of experience as an urologist and almost 60 years of experience as a man, Dr Siegel writes about the subtle changes in sexual function men may experience as they age. Here is how he defines erections during the different stages of a man's life:
20s
Your libido is prodigious and therefore very little stimulation is required to achieve an erection. You might even get erections when you don’t want them. However, the downside of this is the possibility of premature-ejaculation.
30s
Your sex drive remains vigorous, but it is not quite as all-consuming as in your twenties. You can still get quality erections, but they may not occur as spontaneously.
40s
After the age of 40, changes in sexual function become more obvious. You can usually get a pretty good quality erection, but it now often requires physical stimulation.
50s
Sex is still important, but the desire is typically diminished. Nighttime and morning erections become few and far between.
60s
Your testosterone level has plummeted over the decades, leading to a diminished sex drive. Erections are still obtainable with some coaxing and coercion. Although erectile dysfunction (ED) is not inevitable, it does become more prevalent with each passing decade.
70s
When asked about his sexual function, one of Dr Siegel’s 70-something-year-old patients replied: “Retired… and I’m really upset that I’m not even upset.” The quality of your erections drops noticeably after the age of 70 and spontaneous erections are a rare occurrence.
Luckily, Dr Ravi Kacker, a urologist and fellow in male sexual medicine at Harvard-affiliated Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, says that it is a common misconception that erections are necessary for male orgasm. Even a limp penis can be stimulated to orgasm, so it is still possible for you to experience sexual intimacy.
https://www.health24.com/Medical/Er...rence-between-erections-at-20-and-70-20170322
I think this is overly pessimistic but also in the end realistic.
My personal experience was that TRT at age 59-63 did bring me back to the description of erections in your 20s, but starting over with TRT now that I am 66 I would say I am at late 40s early 50s. It’s only in the first 8 weeks, so time will tell how it improves.
My point is age matters and at some point, we won’t get morning wood or feel like a young goat no matter how we fine tune our protocol.
Another aspect to this. If I go to my regular doctor complaining I don't get morning wood, I can see from this description that nearly all doctors would consider this normal at age 66. I would likely have to say I have zero libido for it to even register with most doctors as an atypical symptom of aging.
What isn’t clear, how old is too old, and what can we expect from TRT after age 60?
ARTICLE: ==============================================
The difference between erections at 20 and 70
Whether you’re hitting puberty and ready for 'lift off’ or planning to retire and 'failing to launch', experts provide the cold hard facts on erections as you age.
Have you ever wondered what to expect from your erections as you age? Dr Andrew Siegel, a urologist and avid blogger, has the answers.
Dr Siegel, who is an Assistant Clinical Professor of Surgery at the Rutgers-New Jersey Medical School, writes that ageing can be quite unkind, and unfortunately “Father Time does not spare your sexual function".
Erections before puberty
Dr Ferdi Marais, a urologist from Busamed Private Hospital in Somerset West, says that it is common for boys who haven't yet reached puberty to get erections. He says this is because an erection is a neuro-vascular phenomenon which can be psychogenic, reflexive or nocturnal in origin.
1) A psychogenic erection is caused by audio-visual stimuli or fantasy.
2) A reflexive erection is caused by touch or irritation of the penis or its nerve supply.
3) A nocturnal erection is a normal erection experienced during deep (REM) sleep.
“It’s normally the last two types that are seen in pre-pubertal children,” Dr Marais says.
Erections through the ages
After 25 years of experience as an urologist and almost 60 years of experience as a man, Dr Siegel writes about the subtle changes in sexual function men may experience as they age. Here is how he defines erections during the different stages of a man's life:
20s
Your libido is prodigious and therefore very little stimulation is required to achieve an erection. You might even get erections when you don’t want them. However, the downside of this is the possibility of premature-ejaculation.
30s
Your sex drive remains vigorous, but it is not quite as all-consuming as in your twenties. You can still get quality erections, but they may not occur as spontaneously.
40s
After the age of 40, changes in sexual function become more obvious. You can usually get a pretty good quality erection, but it now often requires physical stimulation.
50s
Sex is still important, but the desire is typically diminished. Nighttime and morning erections become few and far between.
60s
Your testosterone level has plummeted over the decades, leading to a diminished sex drive. Erections are still obtainable with some coaxing and coercion. Although erectile dysfunction (ED) is not inevitable, it does become more prevalent with each passing decade.
70s
When asked about his sexual function, one of Dr Siegel’s 70-something-year-old patients replied: “Retired… and I’m really upset that I’m not even upset.” The quality of your erections drops noticeably after the age of 70 and spontaneous erections are a rare occurrence.
Luckily, Dr Ravi Kacker, a urologist and fellow in male sexual medicine at Harvard-affiliated Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, says that it is a common misconception that erections are necessary for male orgasm. Even a limp penis can be stimulated to orgasm, so it is still possible for you to experience sexual intimacy.
https://www.health24.com/Medical/Er...rence-between-erections-at-20-and-70-20170322
I think this is overly pessimistic but also in the end realistic.
