Test Prop / Test Cyp?

KingTvler

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I have recently started researching trt after many years of having symptoms and being to countless doctors who could not figure out what was going on. I recently have had blood work done, and my testosterone is extremely low. Test 153 ng/dl and Free Test 5.6 pg/ml. Now, I recently was prescribed Testosterone Cypionate at 120mg a week, split into two doses of 60mg. What I would like to know, is can I pair that with Test Prop, and what would a recommended dose be ED? From my understanding test prop should be done ED and am fine with that. Just looking for some thoughts/recommendation since I am new to trt. I have done quite a bit of research by would like to hear from those who have experiance.
 
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Blending propionate with a longer ester such as cypionate or enanthate is a good choice if you're going to inject daily. Propionate alone causes an unnaturally large variation in serum testosterone, while a longer ester usually leads to an unnaturally low variation. There's a long thread here discussing how to make such a blend. Of course a blend isn't strictly necessary, it's just more convenient. Particularly when starting out you can draw both esters separately into the same syringe. When better information is lacking, a reasonable starting point is to get half of the testosterone from each ester. Bear in mind that propionate is 83.7% testosterone by weight, and cypionate is 70% testosterone.

On the subject of dosing, a blend allows you to use lower dosing. Even so, your current dose is excessive, almost double the natural production rate for healthy young men. A better starting dose for cypionate is 40 mg twice a week. In any case, for a starting dose of a blend, aim to inject 7-8 mg of testosterone daily.

Suppose the propionate concentration is 100 mg/mL and the cypionate is 200 mg/mL. Call Vp the desired propionate volume and Vc the desired cypionate volume. Then we need to solve these two equations to find the dose volumes:

Desired_T_dose = 83.7% * 100 mg/mL * Vp + 70% * 200 mg/mL * Vc
83.7% * 100 mg/mL * Vp = 70% * 200 mg/mL * Vc

These yield:

Desired_T_dose = 2 * 83.7% * 100 mg/mL * Vp
Vp = Desired_T_dose / ( 167.4 mg/mL )
Vc = Desired_T_dose / ( 280 mg/mL )

For a Desired_T_dose of 7 mg, the propionate injection volume is 0.0418 mL and the cypionate volume is 0.0250 mL. If you use 0.3 mL U-100 insulin syringes with half-unit markings then the dose includes 4 units of propionate and 2.5 units of cypionate. The next easy increase is to 5 units of propionate and 3 units of cypionate, yielding a bit over 8 mg of testosterone.
 

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A form of estrogen produced from testosterone. Important for bone health, mood, and libido. Too high can cause side effects; too low can affect well-being.

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Lakshman KM, Kaplan B, Travison TG, Basaria S, Knapp PE, Singh AB, LaValley MP, Mazer NA, Bhasin S. The effects of injected testosterone dose and age on the conversion of testosterone to estradiol and dihydrotestosterone in young and older men. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Aug;95(8):3955-64.

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