Telmisartan on trt

Goddar

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Hey guys !

I’ve been hearing since some time ago the use of telmisartan to protect kidneys and heart during trt. My trt doctor is not very fan because he says, is only necessary when exist high pressure or proteinuria and in abscence of this, are more cons than pros. Do anyone of you use it ?
 
I just started Telmisartan a couple months ago. Switched from Losartan. Def a BP med. But, it has a much better profile than Losartan. -"IF" one does not get any undesirable side effects... Not that there are numerous sides by any means. -I had none...

Because of a longer 1/2 life than Losartan AND better Hct management, I decided to give it a whirl. I've had no sides and my HR and BP have been better. Will know more on my next Lab's.

If one is on TRT, has High BP and is on another comparable BP Med (Losartan, Valsartan, olmesartan, etc....) it's def worth looking into IMHO
 
I just started Telmisartan a couple months ago. Switched from Losartan. Def a BP med. But, it has a much better profile than Losartan. -"IF" one does not get any undesirable side effects... Not that there are numerous sides by any means. -I had none...

Because of a longer 1/2 life than Losartan AND better Hct management, I decided to give it a whirl. I've had no sides and my HR and BP have been better. Will know more on my next Lab's.

If one is on TRT, has High BP and is on another comparable BP Med (Losartan, Valsartan, olmesartan, etc....) it's def worth looking into IMHO
Doy you use telmisartan due high pressure?
 
It's probably the reduction of high BP that reduces strain on the heart and kidneys but I don't think it's 'protective' on its own.
 
It's probably the reduction of high BP that reduces strain on the heart and kidneys but I don't think it's 'protective' on its own.
Pretty interesting.

AI:
1. Blood Pressure Management

Anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) and growth hormone often cause blood volume increases, water retention, and arterial stiffening, leading to high blood pressure. Telmisartan is an Angiotensin II Receptor Blocker (ARB) that relaxes blood vessels. Bodybuilders favor it because it provides potent, 24-hour blood pressure control without negatively impacting lipid profiles or athletic performance.
(Mayo Clinic)


2. Metabolic & Fat-Loss Benefits

Beyond blood pressure, Telmisartan has unique properties that mimic a mild "cutting" aid. It acts as a partial agonist of PPAR-γ and stimulates PPAR-δ. In bodybuilding circles, this is highly sought after because it:

Enhances Fat Oxidation: Stimulates the burning of fatty acids and increases energy expenditure.
Improves Insulin Sensitivity: Helps prevent the insulin resistance commonly caused by bulking phases, growth hormone, or oral steroids.
Reduces Adiposity: Helps manage body weight and prevents fat accumulation.
(NIH.Gov)

3. Organ & Cardiovascular Protection

Telmisartan helps prevent left ventricular hypertrophy (enlargement of the heart muscle) caused by the extreme stress of heavy lifting and steroid use. It also protects the kidneys (renoprotection) and is believed by some to have anti-inflammatory effects that protect arteries from plaque buildup.
(ScienceDirect.com +4)

4. Anabolic/Anti-Catabolic Effects

Some preclinical data suggest telmisartan may downregulate myostatin (a protein that inhibits muscle growth). Because of this, bodybuilders sometimes use it during "off-cycle" or contest preparation to preserve muscle mass while minimizing fat gain.
(NIH.Gov)

Personally, I've trained at a high level for many yrs, (mostly HIT via Powerlifting and Bodybuilding many, many yrs ago) So, I have been a bit curious as to the damage (Left Ventricle Hypertrophy) I "may" have created along the way.

PS I Powerlift, but I don't use anabolics other than TRT. Unfortunately, heart disease does run in my fam
 
I just started Telmisartan a couple months ago. Switched from Losartan. Def a BP med. But, it has a much better profile than Losartan. -"IF" one does not get any undesirable side effects... Not that there are numerous sides by any means. -I had none...

Because of a longer 1/2 life than Losartan AND better Hct management, I decided to give it a whirl. I've had no sides and my HR and BP have been better. Will know more on my next Lab's.

If one is on TRT, has High BP and is on another comparable BP Med (Losartan, Valsartan, olmesartan, etc....) it's def worth looking into IMHO
How does it manage hematocrit do you think?
 
How does it manage hematocrit do you think?
I'm not sure yet. I'll know for sure'ish after my next Lab's. -Giving it plenty of time to stabilize...

Based on my past exp's I feel as though my Hct is not creeping up at the same rate as before. My body likes to be 50-52%. But, the clinics crappy protocol makes me donate >50%. Which kills my iron and Ferritin.

I notice a huge difference in my Gym perf following a donation and it does not get better until my #'s are back up to 50-52%. Initially, 2+days after a donation I feel like a fish out of water. Struggling for O2 on Hvy low rep compounds and this continues for weeks aft donations...

I'm looking fwd to the next Lab's and then the one after that for confirmation
 
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