So who is happy with TRT? Who wish they never started?

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granger

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not sure "pump" is a good sign as indicates increase in BP... along with water retention of course making it even worse. how much has your BP increased since on TRT?

while "pump" feels good its not great in reality to get as means your BP is high esp if comes easier lasts for longer etc. there is a theory that is good for muscle growth but is 100% broscience as guys like to look veiny and have high BP...

if want to be healthy and in shape less "pump" the better. ie runners dont like 'pump" in there feet or ankles as means they are out of shape ;)

amazing this is still cited as a positive, the healthier your vessels and better your BP the less pump you will get. the shorter your pump stays means your recovery is better aswell. ie long pumps are a sign you should be doing more cardio eating less garbage and focus on lower BP.... only BROS can take something that is a sign of poor health and make it a positive JUST being feels good and makes them look bigger.
 
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RickB

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@granger I like the pump. And I really don't care that "runners dont like 'pump" in there (sic) feet". And yes, I like to eat what I want when I want.

But thanks for your concern about my BP. I appreciate it.
 

Ribeye

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Hi,
As someone with a total T of 230 at 42 years old. And reading these boards as well as numerous research articles. Who is ultimately happy with going on TRT? What benefits did you see? What negatives did you personally see? Its hard to really discern whether the benefits outweighs the risks etc. How is everyone's libido? What ester are you on and how much/how often?

Just trying to get some feedback from people currently on TRT or that were on and went off due to side effects.
I am not sure where to start, except to say, TRT has turned my life around 180 degrees! I am back to my old self. I have much more energy, stamina, desire to participate in life's great fun things. I had a total T measured three times, as low as 153. It sucked. Sex was out of the question. Even with high doses of viagra. not only that, I had little drive, or desire too, even though I knew I wanted more. My lipid profiles have improved, my A1C has improved, I am by most any measure a better, healthier person. And a much happier person. I am back to many of my old hobbies. My wife can't believe the difference in me, as I went from begging her not to order large bags of dog food (they weigh 37 - 45 lbs) because I couldn't lift and carry them to me picking them up like next to nothing and carrying them down two flights of steps. I went from sitting on the couch to losing 40lbs so far, and plans to lose another 25 or so. I have not been this small in at least 25 years.But make no mistake, find a good doc who will work with you, and get you started the right way. Someone who will tell what to be careful of, and help you keep from finding the pitfalls. I am now living my best life, and I wouldn't go back no matter what. Quality of life is as important, as just breathing. I truly hope you get help and results, if you need help.
 

onetwonine

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I wish i had never started. Simply never found a protocol that worked sustainably.

Reading through this thread, i see a lot of guys that seem to have found the one variable that they had to fix for their protocols to work (hcg/no hcg/ dose etc)

I have gone through those phases where everything seemed right for a few months after a change.. until it wasnt and then i had to search for a new solution again. Tiresome.

Not to say it isnt possible of course.
 

granger

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I like the pump. And I really don't care that "runners dont like 'pump" in there (sic) feet". And yes, I like to eat what I want when I want.

But thanks for your concern about my BP. I appreciate it.

sorry if came off as criticism... just wanted to dispel some broscience re "the pump".. as its not a good thing other than means ur getting a good workout... but if sustained and comes TOO easy just keep an eye on that BP as would be curious how much higher its gotten.... cheers!
 

RickB

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sorry if came off as criticism... just wanted to dispel some broscience re "the pump".. as its not a good thing other than means ur getting a good workout... but if sustained and comes TOO easy just keep an eye on that BP as would be curious how much higher its gotten.... cheers!
Yeah it came off as criticism out of the blue, mainly because this thread was just trying to tell the OP about what we liked about trt, but no worries, apology accepted.

I've read theories saying the pump is beneficial to hypertrophy, but I know that is not universally accepted. Regardless, it is a motivator for me. It's like using a pre-workout. It's not necessary, but it makes things feel right. I've done keto and have done plenty of workouts with no pump, and they just feel off.
 

Cooper

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I am not sure where to start, except to say, TRT has turned my life around 180 degrees! I am back to my old self. I have much more energy, stamina, desire to participate in life's great fun things. I had a total T measured three times, as low as 153. It sucked. Sex was out of the question. Even with high doses of viagra. not only that, I had little drive, or desire too, even though I knew I wanted more. My lipid profiles have improved, my A1C has improved, I am by most any measure a better, healthier person. And a much happier person. I am back to many of my old hobbies. My wife can't believe the difference in me, as I went from begging her not to order large bags of dog food (they weigh 37 - 45 lbs) because I couldn't lift and carry them to me picking them up like next to nothing and carrying them down two flights of steps. I went from sitting on the couch to losing 40lbs so far, and plans to lose another 25 or so. I have not been this small in at least 25 years.But make no mistake, find a good doc who will work with you, and get you started the right way. Someone who will tell what to be careful of, and help you keep from finding the pitfalls. I am now living my best life, and I wouldn't go back no matter what. Quality of life is as important, as just breathing. I truly hope you get help and results, if you need help.
Awesome - curious as to your protocol
 

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Charliebizz

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I wish i had never started. Simply never found a protocol that worked sustainably.

Reading through this thread, i see a lot of guys that seem to have found the one variable that they had to fix for their protocols to work (hcg/no hcg/ dose etc)

I have gone through those phases where everything seemed right for a few months after a change.. until it wasnt and then i had to search for a new solution again. Tiresome.

Not to say it isnt possible of course.
why Do you wish you never started ? Obviously you didnt feel well, leading you to trt.
 
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