Recovering Fertility while on Nebido

[Jay Ara]

HI Nelson,

I hope this message finds you well.

I would like to give you first kudos for your forum and videos, I really like the information you make available for all of us.

I live in Switzerland and I have only 1 testicle, since child, around 7 years ago I was diagnosed as Low T, most probably due to only 1 testie, they did MRI on my Hypophyse and they did not find any issue.

I have been under Nebido, on/off (due to health insurance issues) for 3 years and then latetly after spermiogram (zero count) and our wish to habe a baby, after 9 months without Nebido my sperm count was according to my fertility doctor good to try, my wife was not ready and I was feeling horrible, then we decided to freeze (Cryo) my sperm to be used later on, then I restarted Nebido, 3 months later, my wife got pregnant of our twin angels that unfortunately did not come to earth (misscarriage), now 1 year later and back on Nebido we are considering to try again, I'm probably infertil again and here the fertility clinic suggested that i go off the testosterone again try in more natural way.

I was wondering if you could share some success stories of people getting their fertility again while on testosterone.

I take Nebido only, not Arimidex and no HCG, as the doctors here do not prescribe that, I doubt some doctor will prescribe me HCG or HMG to stimulate my sperm production while I'm on test.

I really would like to try something before I may go off and then we can try without the samples I have frozen.


I'm on 4ml Nebido every 12 weeks and I feel fine, sometimes towards the 9 or 10 week I feel like my test goes down but I had issue with hematocrits and they are concerned with the frequency of injections.

Sorry for the long message.

With best regards,
Jay

 

[Vince]

Regaining Fertility; TRT+HCG+FSH

I’m very grateful for this forum and the information I have gotten from it is excellent. I am a 48 year old man that has been on TRT since 2008. My wife and I want to have a baby now. Semen analysis pre 2008 was good on volume, motility etc. After TRT it went to 0. I decided to get off of TRT...

www.excelmale.com

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Hello Jay

Where do you live? Have you ever found out what you total testosterone is right before your next Nebido injection every 12 weeks? Have you had a semen test done? Can you share your labwork including hematocrit?

 

[Jay Ara]

Hello Jay

Where do you live? Have you ever found out what you total testosterone is right before your next Nebido injection every 12 weeks? Have you had a semen test done? Can you share your labwork including hematocrit?

Hi Nelson,

I live in Switzerland.

I have a lot of labwork, let scan that out and I can share with you guys.

i had my semen test done as well, actually I’m going to the clinic tomorrow to ask for my data from my frozen samples.

i will come back to you guys shortly.

Regards
Jay

 

[Jay Ara]

Regaining Fertility; TRT+HCG+FSH

I’m very grateful for this forum and the information I have gotten from it is excellent. I am a 48 year old man that has been on TRT since 2008. My wife and I want to have a baby now. Semen analysis pre 2008 was good on volume, motility etc. After TRT it went to 0. I decided to get off of TRT...

www.excelmale.com

Thanks Vince

Do you guys know if I can get from Switzerland HCG and FSH from Empower Pharmacy? If yes, how.

 

[Vince]

I’m sorry I have no idea where you would get HCG and FSH in Switzerland. Hopefully someone else will chime in and be able to give you your answer.

 

[Jay Ara]

Hello Jay

Where do you live? Have you ever found out what you total testosterone is right before your next Nebido injection every 12 weeks? Have you had a semen test done? Can you share your labwork including hematocrit?

Here is the last spermogram I made, before go back on Nebido.

I will try to scan the last lab work I have and I will share in a bit.

Regards,
Jay

 

[Jay Ara]

Hello Jay

Where do you live? Have you ever found out what you total testosterone is right before your next Nebido injection every 12 weeks? Have you had a semen test done? Can you share your labwork including hematocrit?

Here is what I have. I could not find my last Lab work.

I'm going again in 2 weeks (12 weeks after my last injection) and I should do again Lab work and I hope to get my injection. I feel weak already at week 10.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jay Ara]

Here is my last Labwork results.

 

[Nik]

Here is my last Labwork results.

Ggt and gpt high?

 

[Jay Ara]

Hello Jay

Where do you live? Have you ever found out what you total testosterone is right before your next Nebido injection every 12 weeks? Have you had a semen test done? Can you share your labwork including hematocrit?

Hi Nelson, I posted all the labwork I have (recent ones) and also my semen test...

Thanks for your comments

 

[Jay Ara]

Ggt and gpt high?

GPT high before, I guess was due to my diet. Did a liver detox, and then feeling better since then.

 

[Nik]

[QUOTE = "Jay Ara, publicación: 182106, miembro: 38992"]
GPT alto antes, supongo que se debió a mi dieta. Hice una desintoxicación del hígado, y luego me sentí mejor desde entonces.
[/CITAR] I have discovered that nebido elevates my gpt, ggt markers, always double, very similar to their numbers, I even notice a certain yellowish tone on my skin, does something similar happen to you?

 

[Jay Ara]

[QUOTE = "Jay Ara, publicación: 182106, miembro: 38992"]
GPT alto antes, supongo que se debió a mi dieta. Hice una desintoxicación del hígado, y luego me sentí mejor desde entonces.
[/CITAR] I have discovered that nebido elevates my gpt, ggt markers, always double, very similar to their numbers, I even notice a certain yellowish tone on my skin, does something similar happen to you?

Hi Nik,

No issues with skin tone, only with fetty food and too much drink, I could feel that may liver was not good. After Natural treatment, carduss marianus/Milk Thistle, and watching my diet, my liver is better.

 

[Jay Ara]

Here is the last spermogram I made, before go back on Nebido.

I will try to scan the last lab work I have and I will share in a bit.

Regards,
Jay

Here is my second sample results

 

[Jay Ara]

Hi Guys,

Here is my latest Labwork.

Any comments?

My doctor wants to keep me with 12 weeks interval.

I would like to reduce it, but previously I had Hematokrit issues, but now seems to be under control.

One week after getting my new shot, I feel good again, it will last until week 9 or 10 then I start to feel lack of energy and strengh at the gym.

Regarding Fertility I order a couple of supplements to try to get some swimmers to be used in an IVF sometime later this year, theoretically would not be necessary if I regain fertility.

In the fertility clinic they said they can not prescribe anything while I'm on Nebido.

Any help/advise is welcome.

Regards,
Jay

 

[Jay Ara]

Dear Nelson,

I decided to try to go off Nebido for while and try to recover my HPA axis with the following protocol.

I'm assisted by a doctor with experience in this field.

Here is my protocol:

1 - Stop Nebido
2 - EOD 50mg Clomid
3 - ED - 25mg Proviron
4 - ED - Phytotherapic supplements like, Maca, Mucuna, Tribulus, Saw palmeto, Ginseng, Ginger, Ginko Biloba, Long Jack
5 - ED FH Pro for men - Vitamin A, C, D3, E, K, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Folate, B12, Iodine, Zinc, Selenium, Copper, Manganese, Chromium, Molybdenum, L-Carnitine, L-Arginine, CoQ10, Grape Seed, Lycopene, Benfotiamine
6 - Next 30 days Testogel (70mg) Every Night

I hope in 60 days my axis will be better and I will check LH and FSH and spermogram.

I hope I can make my wife pregnant again, without feeling miserable without my TRT.

Any comments?

Regards,
Jay

 

[Jay Ara]

Dear Nelson,

I decided to try to go off Nebido for while and try to recover my HPA axis with the following protocol.

I'm assisted by a doctor with experience in this field.

Here is my protocol:

1 - Stop Nebido
2 - EOD 50mg Clomid
3 - ED - 25mg Proviron
4 - ED - Phytotherapic supplements like, Maca, Mucuna, Tribulus, Saw palmeto, Ginseng, Ginger, Ginko Biloba, Long Jack
5 - ED FH Pro for men - Vitamin A, C, D3, E, K, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Folate, B12, Iodine, Zinc, Selenium, Copper, Manganese, Chromium, Molybdenum, L-Carnitine, L-Arginine, CoQ10, Grape Seed, Lycopene, Benfotiamine
6 - Next 30 days Testogel (70mg) Every Night

I hope in 60 days my axis will be better and I will check LH and FSH and spermogram.

I hope I can make my wife pregnant again, without feeling miserable without my TRT.

Any comments?

Regards,
Jay

Hi guys, I would like to post an update regarding my protocol.

I added 3 x per week 0.5 ml (300 IU) of Gonal-F 300 IU

I will run some blood work in 6 weeks and I should know more the results.

Stay tuned.

Regards,
Jay

 

[Jay Ara]

@Nelson Vergel FYI

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Hi Jay
No access to hCG? What was your T level before you started TRT? How long were on TRT?