Possible high estrogen symptoms from my injection.

[whiting1986]

Hi guys. You are probably sick of me by now but here it goes.

So im 3 weeks into my new dose of 94mg a week split into every 3.5 days.

Yesterday after my injection all day my anxiety ramped up and felt so off. No energy, felt off balance at times, and just wanted to rest.

I take insulin needles to the glutes and was wondering if its not reaching my muscles properly and possibly causing most of the Testosterone to aromatize into estrogen causing the problems.

This doesn't happen every time I inject but if it's morning and im fasted without food it can happen

I've tried SubQ before and I felt awful so was wondering if anybody else has experience with this ?

I dont want to use harpoons to inject every 3.5 days hence the insulin needles.

Any feed back would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance guys

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Replying to one of your previous threads would provide context and hopefully a history of protocol changes and labwork. Without that it's difficult to advise.

I take insulin needles to the glutes and was wondering if its not reaching my muscles properly and possibly causing most of the Testosterone to aromatize into estrogen causing the problems.

It's certainly possible. Can you be more specific about needle size, injection location, body fat percentage? How much fat can you pinch where you are injecting?

The muscle gives a different sort of resistance when you puncture it with the needle than the fat, which should allow you to roughly judge how deeply you are penetrating it.

Next time you are feeling like garbage, best thing you can do is go get labwork immediately in that state so you can put some numbers to the feelings. If the service you use for labs has any significant turnaround time to provide the lab requisition, order yourself the labs ahead of time so they are ready to go.

 

[Phil Goodman]

Hi guys. You are probably sick of me by now but here it goes.

So im 3 weeks into my new dose of 94mg a week split into every 3.5 days.

Yesterday after my injection all day my anxiety ramped up and felt so off. No energy, felt off balance at times, and just wanted to rest.

I take insulin needles to the glutes and was wondering if its not reaching my muscles properly and possibly causing most of the Testosterone to aromatize into estrogen causing the problems.

This doesn't happen every time I inject but if it's morning and im fasted without food it can happen

I've tried SubQ before and I felt awful so was wondering if anybody else has experience with this ?

I dont want to use harpoons to inject every 3.5 days hence the insulin needles.

Any feed back would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance guys

There is a middle ground between insulin needles and “harpoons”. You could also try switching injection site, as the glute would likely have a thicker layer for fat than others. I use 27 g needles in the delts and I inject 3 times/week(for years now) with no issues. Switching needle length and/or injection site is a good starting place. Also, since you’ve only ever noticed it occurring after a fasted morning injection then make sure you eat beforehand to rule that factor out through the process of elimination.

 

[whiting1986]

Replying to one of your previous threads would provide context and hopefully a history of protocol changes and labwork. Without that it's difficult to advise.

It's certainly possible. Can you be more specific about needle size, injection location, body fat percentage? How much fat can you pinch where you are injecting?

The muscle gives a different sort of resistance when you puncture it with the needle than the fat, which should allow you to roughly judge how deeply you are penetrating it.

Next time you are feeling like garbage, best thing you can do is go get labwork immediately in that state so you can put some numbers to the feelings. If the service you use for labs has any significant turnaround time to provide the lab requisition, order yourself the labs ahead of time so they are ready to go.

So im using insulin needle probably half inch. I go to glutes. I tense up first to reveal my muscles as I am quite lean and have good muscle definition.

And yes thats a great idea to get bloods when I feel like that, thanks for that.

Really appreciate your input guys

 

[whiting1986]

There is a middle ground between insulin needles and “harpoons”. You could also try switching injection site, as the glute would likely have a thicker layer for fat than others. I use 27 g needles in the delts and I inject 3 times/week(for years now) with no issues. Switching needle length and/or injection site is a good starting place. Also, since you’ve only ever noticed it occurring after a fasted morning injection then make sure you eat beforehand to rule that factor out through the process of elimination.

Thanks brother, Im going to try delts on Tuesday and see how it goes. Appreciate your input

 

[Systemlord]

Hi guys. You are probably sick of me by now but here it goes.

So im 3 weeks into my new dose of 94mg a week split into every 3.5 days.

Yesterday after my injection all day my anxiety ramped up and felt so off. No energy, felt off balance at times, and just wanted to rest.

I take insulin needles to the glutes and was wondering if its not reaching my muscles properly and possibly causing most of the Testosterone to aromatize into estrogen causing the problems.

This doesn't happen every time I inject but if it's morning and im fasted without food it can happen

I've tried SubQ before and I felt awful so was wondering if anybody else has experience with this ?

I dont want to use harpoons to inject every 3.5 days hence the insulin needles.

Any feed back would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance guys

I am four weeks into my Jatenzo restart, I felt really good the first week, like crap on and off the second and third and started feeling better the fourth. I reached a steady state within the first seven days, but my body is still adapting even now.

You’re three weeks in and a long way away from your body fully adapting.