Regardless of whether one is injecting TC or TE true peak would be achieved anywhere from 8-24 hrs post-injection.
When it comes to the half-life they are basically interchangeable.
Both esters have been shown to have similar peaks even though TC is slightly longer acting.
Sift through the literature and look up the Nieschlag/Behre PK studies TE (Tmax) was shown to be anywhere from 8-24 hrs.
Even then look over the M Schulte-Beerbuhl, E Nieschlag study TC/TE.
COMPARISON OF TESTOSTERONE, DIHYDROTESTOSTERONE, LUTEINIZING HORMONE, AND FOLLICLE-STIMULATING HORMONE IN SERUM AFTER INJECTION OF TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE OR TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE (1980)
DISCUSSION
Injection of either testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate in equivalent doses yielded identical serum testosterone concentrations both in terms of maximal concentrations and in terms of duration of elevation above basal levels. Maximal and supraphysiologic levels were achieved as early as the 1st day after injection, and these values had returned to basal concentrations on day 10. There were also no differences in the conversion of testosterone to DHT and in the suppression of LH and FSH observed. Thus, both esters show the same pharmacokinetic properties and appear to be equally useful for clinical purposes.
The studies are posted on here.
Keep in mind many of the PK studies never had blood sampling drawn hourly!
Look over the Antares Xyosted (TE Auto-injector)) study and that is using strictly subcutaneous injections which shows TE (Tmax) 10 hrs post-injection.
My reply from an older thread (posted on here).
Regarding half-lives keep in mind that a majority of studies on the PK/PD of the various T-esters were done using IM (once weekly/fortnightly) injections in a small number of subjects and most of the literature is from decades ago.
Top it off that blood samples were generally collected once per day at a consistent time not every few hrs over a 24 hr period.
The 2019 Kaminetsky 52-week phase III study injecting TE strictly sub-q (Xyosted auto-injector) more frequent sampling was done during pharmacokinetic assessment.
Over a 24 hr period blood draws were done at predefined intervals (0, 2, 4, 8, 12, 24) then 48, 72, 96,120, 144, and 168 hours post-dose.
There is not going to be a big difference in the PKs (TC vs TE) although TC is slightly longer acting they are basically interchangeable.
There is. lots of misinformation out there littered on the forums/net regarding the half-life TC which is shorter than many think.
TE/TC are basically interchangeable and the half-life of TC is not 8 days.
TE: 7-carbon aliphatic ester side-chain
TC: 8-carbon aliphatic ester side-chain
T levels will start rising fairly quick even when using the medium-chain esters.
There will be a burst release of T within 2 hrs post-injection and true peak can be achieved within 24 hrs even as soon as 8-12 in some cases!
Depending on the dose injected T levels will be high/very high post-injection (peak/during the first few days) as once Tmax (within 24 hrs) is achieved levels start to decline gradually over the following days.
Increasing your injection frequency clips the peak--->trough let alone keeps blood levels more stable throughout the week.
There is going to be a big difference in peak--->trough injecting once weekly vs twice-weekly vs daily.
Even then when looking at the PKs injecting once weekly there can be high variability in T levels (peak/trough) between men.
Even then much more to the story here!
My reply from an older thread:
I would not fret over whether one uses enanthate vs cypionate as they are basically interchangeable.
Regardless of the minor differences in the esters between the two, there are many other factors that affect the rate at which testosterone is released from the oily depot at the injection site.
Sub-q vs IM, the volume of injection, injection depth, site of injection, lymphatic flow, and the concentration of BOH (benzyl alcohol) is other possible factors that can affect absorption rates of the esterified hormone.
As far as testosterone esters 100 mg of enanthate= 72 mg active testosterone and 100 mg cypionate= 70 mg active testosterone.
Would not even waste my time getting too caught up on the PKs.
If anything I would be far more concerned with your protocol (dose T/injection frequency)/SHBG level and where such has your trough FT levels!
Has anyone seen visual charts showing how testosterone levels change between TRT injections?
I'm curious whether the curves are smooth or if there are sharp peaks/drops, especially for the common esters like cypionate and enanthate.
Just looking to see what the typical pharmacokinetic profile looks like visually.
I found this post, but would like some more examples if available!:
Pharmacokinetic Profile of Subcutaneous Testosterone - Excel Male Health Forum
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