New member, 6 weeks in

[damack]

Hi all, new guy here. I've been lurking for a while, exchanged some pms (thanks Madman) and thought I'd join the party. I'm 60 years old and in the past year I've notice dwindling energy and long post workout recovery. It peaked a couple of months ago so I checked in with my doctor. I didn't think it was testosterone deficiency as I have been able to stay strong, and even increase strength even at 60. He ran some tests, did bloodwork and we decided to try a dose of Androgel to if it would help. I know Androgel generally gets a pretty bad rap around here, so I wasn't expecting much. Low and belold, after a couple of weeks I began to notice my energy levels getting better and now 6 weeks in I feel pretty good. Workout recovery is excellent. Pre-treatment a heavy deadlift or squat day would leave me annihilated for 4 or 5 days, now I'm sore the next day and just slightly sore the day after. It's been pretty good and I'm generally pretty happy with the results. For the most part, especially during the week, Androgel is easy to use. Shower, apply, get dressed and go to work. It's the weekends that are a problem. I'm pretty active and every activity involves major sweating. I've been getting up at 5am and applying the Androgel, putting on a tshirt and going back to bed. I try and get 5 hours before getting out and sweating which seems to be the recommended time. It's a bit of a pain in the ass, sometimes I can get back to sleep, sometimes not (like today) and being awake at 5am on the weekend isn't my dream situation. I've thought of applying it when I get back during the day, but sometimes I'm out for most of the day and this would mean I'm not applying until late afternoon/evening.

Does anyone have any suggestions? While injectibles may be the ultimate path forward, the Androgel is pretty easy for me right now and above all, it's working and I feel good. It's just the timing on the weekends that's troublesome.

 

[madman]

Hi all, new guy here. I've been lurking for a while, exchanged some pms (thanks Madman) and thought I'd join the party. I'm 60 years old and in the past year I've notice dwindling energy and long post workout recovery. It peaked a couple of months ago so I checked in with my doctor. I didn't think it was testosterone deficiency as I have been able to stay strong, and even increase strength even at 60. He ran some tests, did bloodwork and we decided to try a dose of Androgel to if it would help. I know Androgel generally gets a pretty bad rap around here, so I wasn't expecting much. Low and belold, after a couple of weeks I began to notice my energy levels getting better and now 6 weeks in I feel pretty good. Workout recovery is excellent. Pre-treatment a heavy deadlift or squat day would leave me annihilated for 4 or 5 days, now I'm sore the next day and just slightly sore the day after. It's been pretty good and I'm generally pretty happy with the results. For the most part, especially during the week, Androgel is easy to use. Shower, apply, get dressed and go to work. It's the weekends that are a problem. I'm pretty active and every activity involves major sweating. I've been getting up at 5am and applying the Androgel, putting on a tshirt and going back to bed. I try and get 5 hours before getting out and sweating which seems to be the recommended time. It's a bit of a pain in the ass, sometimes I can get back to sleep, sometimes not (like today) and being awake at 5am on the weekend isn't my dream situation. I've thought of applying it when I get back during the day, but sometimes I'm out for most of the day and this would mean I'm not applying until late afternoon/evening.

Does anyone have any suggestions? While injectibles may be the ultimate path forward, the Androgel is pretty easy for me right now and above all, it's working and I feel good. It's just the timing on the weekends that's troublesome.

The majority of men lurking on the forums are using injectable esterifeid T and the ones using the transdermal T modalities are mostly using the compounded high strength creams.

Yes we have had some members over the years that have done well using big pharma Androgel and were able to achieve a high enough TT and more importantly FT but they are far and few.

Many men end up using the compounded high strength creams or end up jumping on injections.

As I stated in our previous conversations you were started on a low dose and although your peak TT 600s would be robust your peak FT is far from robust and not that high due to your highish SHBG.

You would be far better off using a higher daily dose to see if you can achieve a higher peak TT/FT but even then on your current dose your levels did not increase a lot compared to where you sat at baseline.

Chances are a higher dose may not get your peak TT/FT high enough to take advantage of the beneficial effects.

Again I would consider one of the newer oral TU formulations (Jatenzo, Tlando or Kyzatrex) or jumping on injections.

Both Jatezo and Kyzatrex have been approve by Health Canada and soon enough Tlando will join the club.

Look over these threads and you will get a better idea of peoples experiences using big Pharma Androgel.

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[madman]

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[damack]

Thanks Madman,
My doctor has left it up to me to decide if I want to switch to injectible, I've chosen to ride out the rest of the 3 month perscription for Anogel, simply because it's working for me. The numbers may not be fantastic but I'm more focused on results in the way I feel, not just in lab results. I'm feeling good, it's been a noticeable difference and zero side effects. The symptoms that led me to the doctor in the first place have mostly subsided. I'm 60 years old, I'm not looking to feel 20 again, but 45-50 would be nice. We'll retest again in 4 weeks and decide how we'll move forward.

My doc looked for Jatenzo but it was not showing up in the system.

So, if there are any other members that are successfully using Androgel, any tips for useage?

 

[madman]

Thanks Madman,
My doctor has left it up to me to decide if I want to switch to injectible, I've chosen to ride out the rest of the 3 month perscription for Anogel, simply because it's working for me. The numbers may not be fantastic but I'm more focused on results in the way I feel, not just in lab results. I'm feeling good, it's been a noticeable difference and zero side effects. The symptoms that led me to the doctor in the first place have mostly subsided. I'm 60 years old, I'm not looking to feel 20 again, but 45-50 would be nice. We'll retest again in 4 weeks and decide how we'll move forward.

My doc looked for Jatenzo but it was not showing up in the system.

So, if there are any other members that are successfully using Androgel, any tips for useage?

In Canada Jatenzo is supposed to be distributed by Innomar Strategies Inc.

The manufacturer is Tolmar International Ltd.

Ask your doctor to contact one of the Inomar Pharmacy's in BC and ask if they can order/dispense the Canadian Jatenzo DINs or if there is another pharmacy that can.

Give them these DINs: 02563770 - 158 mg, 02563789 - 198 mg, 02563797 - 237 mg capsules.

TOLMAR INTERNATIONAL LTD. - Drug and Health Products Portal

Information on drug and health products authorized by Health Canada.

dhpp.hpfb-dgpsa.ca

Clinic and Pharmacy Finder | Innomar Strategies

Find one of many Innomar specialty injection and infusion therapy clinics with nurses well trained in patient-centered care.

www.innomar-strategies.com

Thread 'NEW DRUG RELEASE CANADA: JATENZO®: Oral T replacement therapy'

Jun 1, 2026

NEW DRUG: Jatenzo: oral testosterone replacement therapy

Get the info you need on this new product, part of our drug news roundup for June.

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[Guided_by_Voices]

Pre-treatment a heavy deadlift or squat day would leave me annihilated for 4 or 5 days, now I'm sore the next day and just slightly sore the day after.

The statement above jumped out at me. If you're going to failure, especially on more than one set, that alone will massively increase your recovery time, and that will likely lead to unnecessarily high T dosages if that is the driving factor behind your dose selection. I went to failure for three decades of my lifting journey, but leaving a rep or two in the tank and adding sets has been one of the single biggest improvements I've made to my training. I used to come off of TRT for six weeks or so every year, and being off, definitely hurt my recovery, but I am able to recover pretty well on a low dose of T as long as I don't overdo the intensity, and I am stronger now with great work capacity as well.