I want more

Henry

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Hi,
I'm currently on Androgel and HCG. That gets me between 660-700. I feel great. Estrodial is around 27, DHT s around 78. Everything is in range. I have energy, losing weight, sleep well, sec life is great, mind is sharp, etc. Basically, I feel great. No complaints.

But I want more. What happens if I push i to 800, or 900, or 1000, or 1100? Would that make me stronger, faster, etc.? Is is smart to keep pushing until I start getting side effects and then back off? I know there a point of diminishing returns. I know there's a point where you start getting side effects. Do you drive up your testosterone levels to that point and then back off a little? Or do you go high enough to get rid of symptoms, with minimal to no sides, and then live happily ever after?
 
I have no studies to back this up, but I doubt that you could "feel" any difference between 700 and 1000 or 1100. Also,it is very hard to really get TRT dialed in to feel as good as you do now, so my 2-cents would be to leave it alone and enjoy :)
 
I know that side effects, once they appear, can be a challenge to bring under control. They can result in a lot of discomfort.
 
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I won't mess with any changes if you feel great. Some guys do not feel very well at higher T doses. Embrace what you have and enjoy it as long as you can.
 
I will tell you that when I was over 1100 I didn't feel any better but I did start to notice side effects. Ache on my back and more hair on back and arms. Couldn't get more hair to grown on my head.... oh no cant do that.... LOL. Now that I am back down those side effects have reduced a lot.

I am 50 and at 8.89 so just under 900 and feel great. I take .25 twice a week by injection and no HCG or estrogen blockers. when I was higher i was on .5 twice a week which was due to a miss-communication between me and doctor. He wanted me on .5 for the week.

Bodybuilders take more than just testosterone to get their huge gains and they pay a big price for it. TRT is to get you to optimal levels not turn you into Phil Heath or Lance Armstrong...
 

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Estradiol (E2)

A form of estrogen produced from testosterone. Important for bone health, mood, and libido. Too high can cause side effects; too low can affect well-being.

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Dihydrotestosterone is a potent androgen derived from testosterone. Affects hair growth, prostate health, and masculinization effects.

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The biologically active form of testosterone not bound to proteins. Directly available for cellular uptake and biological effects.

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Lakshman KM, Kaplan B, Travison TG, Basaria S, Knapp PE, Singh AB, LaValley MP, Mazer NA, Bhasin S. The effects of injected testosterone dose and age on the conversion of testosterone to estradiol and dihydrotestosterone in young and older men. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Aug;95(8):3955-64.

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