I blamed Estrogen for Side Effects

[Jt5150]

I started TRT about 7-8 weeks ago. Dose age was 125 a week ( injecting twice a week) with HCG and .025 of AI on both injection days.

I started having bad side effects after the 4-5 week. Called doctor and they thought it was high E2, so had me double up on the AI. Side effects continued so I got my labs early that next week.

well at that point my estrogen has tanked. Since we doubled up on AI the week earlier there was no way of telling if I had high or low e.

I decreased my doseage to 100 a week now. Still taking Ai and HCG. I find myself now exhausted all the time, low libido and no motivation to work out.

im thinking this is all low estrogen. I just started back up again so didn’t know if I should do labs again this early. Or I thought of just cutting back on AI myself. However then, won’t get a good picture of my true labs later since I modified myself

 

[Vince Carter]

no labs = youre just guessing. You're already in this hole because you're just guessing and your Dr's telling you to double up on an AI, with no testing is even worse. You can't do this that way.

 

[Vince]

I would skip the AI, until you know what your levels are without one. Not everyone on trt needs an AI. I believe it's the most overused drug in trt.

 

[Sean Mosher]

I'd skip the hCG and AI for awhile, and like the guys said above, don't guess.
Stick with the T for 4-6 weeks and then re-test.
You have way too much going on to figure out what is doing what.

 

[Jt5150]

Can you use HCG without and AI? Or are they supposed to go hand and hand?

 

[Sean Mosher]

You can use Testosterone stand alone.
None of those others necessarily go hand and hand with TRT.
You may or may not need either.
It's too hard to tell at this point though.
We need to see what the T does in isolation for a short period (4-6) weeks.

 

[trt reznor]

Fwiw I didn’t start feeling dialed in until a year and a half into my journey when I cut everything out but test. No hCG, no AI, no supplements. Wish I had started with T only it would have saved me so much hassle and discomfort.

 

[Vince]

Can you use HCG without and AI? Or are they supposed to go hand and hand?

I inject 500iu of HCG twice a week for 5 years now and I never used an AI.