When I started trt I was already leaning towards incorporating HCG at some point, but started with just test to get settled in on that front before adding anything. My reasoning was that it would be beneficial to maintain some amount of natural production in case I wanted to or had to stop trt. I also thought it sounded like a better approach as far as leaving as much of the natural processes in place. Not that I had already decided at that point, but I think that approach going in made me more ready to incorporate it(even switched from local to Defy because they offered it) After about 3 months or trt I noticed a decent amount of atrophy(which I was expecting and not really worried about. However I also noticed a decrease in orgasm intensity. With my test settled in I decided to add it. Around 4-5 months into trt I added HCG. Took some trial and error, but it was also a somewhat crazy time in my life so not sure how much is attributed to that and how much is attributed to my protocol…though surely it was a combination of both. Over time I’ve settled in at 250 ius/3x week. And I did drop my test down from 120 to about 100. That seems to be the sweet spot for me and I’ve been there for me and I’ve been there for almost 2 years straight. Things are going great and I don’t anticipate any major changes.