How do these labs look?

[RLB112]

Here's my blood work, it was almost 3 weeks since my last test shot 2cc. I've been on nothing else other that the test cyp. No est. Block or hcg. Does my blood work look out of wack? I'm 45 yrs old.. Ok well it won't post
Estradol is 17.8
Dhea sulfate is 118
Psa is 2.07
Testosterone total is 184
Vit d was low 21.4

 

[Prof]

You need TRT.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Can you provide a bit of context for these values? You came off TRT?

 

[RLB112]

Nope sorry I went to trt specialist. My doc had me on 1cc test per week and I decided to try 2cc every 2 weeks but had to be 7 days since last shot. So had 2cc shot was due for another but didn't due to the fact it would have been only 6 days since last shot so I skipped it.

 

[Weasel]

Ya what???? That makes no sense.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Nope sorry I went to trt specialist. My doc had me on 1cc test per week and I decided to try 2cc every 2 weeks but had to be 7 days since last shot. So had 2cc shot was due for another but didn't due to the fact it would have been only 6 days since last shot so I skipped it.

Let me see if I understand this. First of all, "cc" is a volume, not a dose - can you let us know how many milligrams of testosterone you're injecting? But, you decided to double your dose and inject once every two weeks, is that right? That, in and of itself, is a problem. The half-life of testosterone is such that you'll fail to benefit from TRT if you inject on an every two week basis. You won't achieve proper, healthy levels, and you'll feel miserable. Frequent, smaller injections are the ticket to success. A typical, starting protocol calls for 50mg to be injected every 3.5 days (adjustments can be made from there). An injection every two weeks is not what you want to do.

 

[RLB112]

Sorry weasel not sure what you mean

 

[RLB112]

Sorry coastwatcher I only know it as cc. But I Googled the conversion and it's 200 mg. And yes I went back to every week rather than every 2 weeks.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Sorry coastwatcher I only know it as cc. But I Googled the conversion and it's 200 mg. And yes I went back to every week rather than every 2 weeks.

That was a good move on your part. It's important to know the dose in milligrams that you inject in order to discuss it with others. Depending on the syringe you use, or others use, 200mg may be delivered as a different volume. Your dose, per week, is...200mg? If so, that's at the high end of TRT. At the very least, I'd divide that dose in two, 100mg every 3.5 days. This goes back to the "smaller, more frequent injection" model I stressed. Even if it's 100mg a week as a single injection, dividing it makes sense. You can, and likely will see good levels at a somewhat lower dose. I inject 16mg every day (carrying smaller and more frequent about as far as one can) and am just under 1000 as far as total testosterone goes. Some things to consider.

 

[RLB112]

Here's my schedual
Cypionate – Inject 1cc one day per week into your glut.

This is your starting day (21g 1” syringe to draw out then switch to the 23g 1 ½” tip to inject)

*

HCG 2,500– Inject into the navel area 250iu (to the 25 mark) on days 6 & 7

Mix 2.5mL of water. mix one at a time and keep refrigerated. Do NOT shake, just swirl it around

*

Anastrazole – Take on days 2 & 5. Dose .5

 

[CoastWatcher]

Here's my schedual
Cypionate – Inject 1cc one day per week into your glut.

This is your starting day (21g 1” syringe to draw out then switch to the 23g 1 ½” tip to inject)

*

HCG 2,500– Inject into the navel area 250iu (to the 25 mark) on days 6 & 7

Mix 2.5mL of water. mix one at a time and keep refrigerated. Do NOT shake, just swirl it around

*

Anastrazole – Take on days 2 & 5. Dose .5

Frankly, I'm not sure how well you're being served by this protocol. It's lot of testosterone and you're injecting it with a painful needle (you could do well with a 27g or 29g needle). If you split, and consider lowering, the amount of testosterone you inject, you are likely to not need Anastrozole (at least there's a good chance you won't). What were your estradiol (sensitive) levels prior to TRT? Your current numbers are on the low side - raising the question of the need for an AI.

 

[RLB112]

I didn't have sensitive test done. This was the actual first estrogen test I've ever had done. I was getting worried my est levels were to high so I found a doc out of my state to take over my trt. All my doc new was test shot and that was it. My test level before I started was 175 and he said it was low. I don't want to be on hcg or est blocker if I don't need to be. That's why I posted this levels in my first post to see if they looked good enough to not worry and just do test

 

[RLB112]

My test levels when I was getting shots weekly were 627

 

[CoastWatcher]

Well, consider what we have suggested. Fifty milligrams split into two injections a week as a starting point. Set the Anastrozole aside...but HCG, at a reasonable dose, is an important part of a solid TRT protocol. What you need, more than anything, is a capable doctor. You've not been well served by the physicians you've consulted. You have been told to inject far too infrequently using a needle that must be causing you pain/discomfort, Anastrozole was added to your protocol without a clear need, and you're HCG dose is suspect. Not a plan that will bring you the benefits of TRT. A new doctor, a GOOD doctor, is your first priority.

 

[RLB112]

Is it to much hcg or not enough?

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

Here's my schedual
Cypionate – Inject 1cc one day per week into your glut.

This is your starting day (21g 1” syringe to draw out then switch to the 23g 1 ½” tip to inject)

*

HCG 2,500– Inject into the navel area 250iu (to the 25 mark) on days 6 & 7

Mix 2.5mL of water. mix one at a time and keep refrigerated. Do NOT shake, just swirl it around

*

Anastrazole – Take on days 2 & 5. Dose .5

This protocol is a hot mess. You need a doctor that knows TRT, because your doctor isn't making the cut.

Do yourself a favor, and call Defy Medical for a consult.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Is it to much hcg or not enough?

Your entire protocol, including HCG, needs to be evaluated by a doctor who really understands TRT. You are not receiving good medical care and won't benefit from TRT unless you consult a doctor who can answer your questions. Defy Medical is one possibility, www.defymedical.com; they are used by many of our members. Prime Body is also a national practice.

 

[RLB112]

Thanks coastwatcher I appreciate all your help. I'm gonna try giving defy a call and see what they can do

 

[CoastWatcher]

Thanks coastwatcher I appreciate all your help. I'm gonna try giving defy a call and see what they can do

A very good move on your part. All the best.

 

[Sean Mosher]

Yes, please call a TRT specialist. 2 are endorsed by this site. I personally use PrimeBody and am doing great with them.