I'm happy to be here with a group of experienced T replacement users! Glad to have found your Forum
I'm a 79-year young professor teaching physicians how to be more experienced teachers in Germany half the year (every two months) and in NH the rest where I write, fish, and play. My NH Urologist tested my T three times, once originally after my complaining about some ED issues and then twice more over a 3 month period including after Transdermal 1.2 mg/24 hr patches for 6 weeks in Germany and it was always under 300. He did other tests to rule out petuitary issues, etc; and then I left for Germany where I began using 2.4 MG "Testopatches" (I need no prescription for those in Germany) and also got myself some Andro Gel 50 mg and will not see him again to ask him to raise my T dose until in August when I return again.
After the first 4 weeks use of the patches, I noticed a significant increase in libido (masturbating or having sex with my much younger wife once a day or so) but still am wrestling with ED at least 50% of the time. I use Cailis (5mg/day normally for BPH increasing it to 20mg when I expect to have intercourse).
1) Since the 2.4 mg patches every day do not seem to either raise my T to 500 or more, and since I'm still having some ED issues, does it make sense to still use the 2.4MG patches PLUS a daily treatment of the Andro gel massaged into shoulders and thighs? What about using two patches plus the gel? Is that too much?
2) What is the negative issue, from what I read, against massaging the gel directly into testicles and penis where I understand it gets into the system faster?
3) I read that T treatments cause a shrinkage of the testicles. Is this true with the gels and patches as with injections? Can one take a pill or something to counter this? (I'm not yet ready for the injections but will if you think it will make a significant difference in my ED issues.)
I take quite a few vegetable-base non-chemical substances recommended on my friend's Anti-Aging web site (http://www.anti-agingfirewalls.com), mostly anti-occidents but also such things as:
ABC Plus Senior Multi-Vitamen:
B-12 1000 mgc
B-6 50 mg
D-3 2000 IU or 1000
C (Ester) 1000 mg
E w/selenium 400 iu SAelenium 50 mgc
Astralagus 470 mg
L-Lysine 500 mg
Lycopene
L-Arginine 1000 mg
L-carnosine 500 mg
L- theanine 100 mg
CO Q10 100mg
Tumeric/curcumin (Tumeric: 160 mg; curcumin C3 complex: 1100 mg)
Zinc (chelated) 50 mg
Resveratrol 50 MG
Green Tea Extract: 315 mg
Acctyl L-carritine (400 mg) and Alpha lipoic Acid (200 mg)
Omeg-3 1200 mg
DHA 100 mg
DHEA: 25 mg or 50 mg
Horney Goat weed: (500 mg Epimedium grandiflorium plant and Maca Pure
root (Lepidium meyenil standardized to.6% macamides &
macaenes)
MACA 20 MG
Melatonin: 5 mg
1 asperin/day 81 mg
*Cialis: 20 mg (one-half every 3 days for BPH)
Though these supplements might help me (my friend has considerable empirical evidence of their positive effects, though these studies are often secret and not always publicized), having a younger wife is what seems to help the most along with coming from a context of being 45-years old instead of 79 in all that I do including 30 minutes of vigorous exercise a day and being a hunter and fisherman. But it is the ED I'm most interesting in helping with the T, though I know it should also help me build muscle and bone and have higher libido. Should I inject HCG or use other things in conjunction with my T replacement? What do you think of changing to the injections and what dose?
Your forum and all the information, much of which I have browsed and some of which I have read, is an invaluable source of information and I readily see there is far more knowledge here than my urologist seems to know which does not surprise me.
Thanks for any advice or suggestions you care to share. My email is [email protected]
Happy Summer!
Hal
I'm a 79-year young professor teaching physicians how to be more experienced teachers in Germany half the year (every two months) and in NH the rest where I write, fish, and play. My NH Urologist tested my T three times, once originally after my complaining about some ED issues and then twice more over a 3 month period including after Transdermal 1.2 mg/24 hr patches for 6 weeks in Germany and it was always under 300. He did other tests to rule out petuitary issues, etc; and then I left for Germany where I began using 2.4 MG "Testopatches" (I need no prescription for those in Germany) and also got myself some Andro Gel 50 mg and will not see him again to ask him to raise my T dose until in August when I return again.
After the first 4 weeks use of the patches, I noticed a significant increase in libido (masturbating or having sex with my much younger wife once a day or so) but still am wrestling with ED at least 50% of the time. I use Cailis (5mg/day normally for BPH increasing it to 20mg when I expect to have intercourse).
1) Since the 2.4 mg patches every day do not seem to either raise my T to 500 or more, and since I'm still having some ED issues, does it make sense to still use the 2.4MG patches PLUS a daily treatment of the Andro gel massaged into shoulders and thighs? What about using two patches plus the gel? Is that too much?
2) What is the negative issue, from what I read, against massaging the gel directly into testicles and penis where I understand it gets into the system faster?
3) I read that T treatments cause a shrinkage of the testicles. Is this true with the gels and patches as with injections? Can one take a pill or something to counter this? (I'm not yet ready for the injections but will if you think it will make a significant difference in my ED issues.)
I take quite a few vegetable-base non-chemical substances recommended on my friend's Anti-Aging web site (http://www.anti-agingfirewalls.com), mostly anti-occidents but also such things as:
ABC Plus Senior Multi-Vitamen:
B-12 1000 mgc
B-6 50 mg
D-3 2000 IU or 1000
C (Ester) 1000 mg
E w/selenium 400 iu SAelenium 50 mgc
Astralagus 470 mg
L-Lysine 500 mg
Lycopene
L-Arginine 1000 mg
L-carnosine 500 mg
L- theanine 100 mg
CO Q10 100mg
Tumeric/curcumin (Tumeric: 160 mg; curcumin C3 complex: 1100 mg)
Zinc (chelated) 50 mg
Resveratrol 50 MG
Green Tea Extract: 315 mg
Acctyl L-carritine (400 mg) and Alpha lipoic Acid (200 mg)
Omeg-3 1200 mg
DHA 100 mg
DHEA: 25 mg or 50 mg
Horney Goat weed: (500 mg Epimedium grandiflorium plant and Maca Pure
root (Lepidium meyenil standardized to.6% macamides &
macaenes)
MACA 20 MG
Melatonin: 5 mg
1 asperin/day 81 mg
*Cialis: 20 mg (one-half every 3 days for BPH)
Though these supplements might help me (my friend has considerable empirical evidence of their positive effects, though these studies are often secret and not always publicized), having a younger wife is what seems to help the most along with coming from a context of being 45-years old instead of 79 in all that I do including 30 minutes of vigorous exercise a day and being a hunter and fisherman. But it is the ED I'm most interesting in helping with the T, though I know it should also help me build muscle and bone and have higher libido. Should I inject HCG or use other things in conjunction with my T replacement? What do you think of changing to the injections and what dose?
Your forum and all the information, much of which I have browsed and some of which I have read, is an invaluable source of information and I readily see there is far more knowledge here than my urologist seems to know which does not surprise me.
Thanks for any advice or suggestions you care to share. My email is [email protected]
Happy Summer!
Hal
