HCG low dose daily and higher dose the two days before testosterone injection

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Hey guys. I am currently on the following TRT regimen:

Test Cypionate 200mg IM q weekly

Anastrazole 0.5 mg on T shot day

HCG 500 IU SQ on the last 2 days of the week before T shot day


My question is: Would it make sense to instead use HCG 100 IU 5 days per week and then increase to 250 IU on the last 2 days before T shot day?

I recently read a book by Dr John Crisler (may he rest in peace), in which he says that using HCG 100 IU daily would more closely approximate the natural daily release of LH from the pituatary. This would then keep the testes producing T on a daily basis while on TRT (I think).

The way it is prescribed for me (and most guys on T it seems) the goal is to cause a surge in natural T production on the two days before the T shot by having two relatively large doses of HCG on those two days.

It seems to me that using HCG 100 IU 5 days per week and then increasing to 250 IU on the two days before T shot day (assuming that you only take one T shot per week), would be the best of both worlds.

Any insight into this idea will be greatly appreciated!



Nick
 
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The way it is prescribed for me (and most guys on T it seems) the goal is to cause a surge in natural T production on the two days before the T shot by having two relatively large doses of HCG on those two days.
This is actually the very old Crisler method, so old that it from the once per week Cyp injections and that logic follows that in that scheme you would be tapering back down on the last two days so you would shoot the HCG in 250-500iu doses to help bridge the gap, if you will.
Dr C had moved on to ~100iu daily but you have the freedom to certainly work that the way that you described and see if it works well for you. HCG use can be all over the map without a set "must do this" kind of scheme.
 
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I take my testosterone once per week. Dosing at 350 iu each for 2 days before injection at 700 iu per week spiked my E2 and acne. Even at 250 iu was a problem. Now I do 150 iu EOD, and my testicles stay full and zero E2 and acne issues.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Is your T shot once a week? What do you think about increasing from 100 IU to 250 IU on the two days before the weekly T shot?

Nick
You need to know if it's the testes that are your problem, or the Pituitary...if your problem is the testes, Primary HypoGonadal, there's little to be gained with HCG stim of the testes, you'll get no appreciable endo T production.
 
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You need to know if it's the testes that are your problem, or the Pituitary...if your problem is the testes, Primary HypoGonadal, there's little to be gained with HCG stim of the testes, you'll get no appreciable endo T production.
Vince, any idea if someone with Klinefelter Syndrome would gain testicle size by adding HCG? My best friend’s 18 year old son has Klinefelter and complains of small testes, and is self conscious about them. Apparently, they are the size of large almonds. He’s ok with being sterile most likely, but wants more normal sized testicles.
 
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