hcg help high dose

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

hi i need help in post cycle I inject two doses of hcg 5000ui high doses because I think my cerulas of Leydin is desensitized I need help I can not get erection and I took three months so I can do

CoastWatcher · May 23, 2016

Welcome to Excelmale. To provide some suggestions we need more information.

What did you cycle? How much, how often, how long?

What sort of post-cycle therapy did you run?

What are your current symptoms?

What lab results can you post?

How old are you, what other drugs supplements are you taking?

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

hello did a cycle for 2 months was as follows: dianabol 30mg 4 weeks, 500 mg testosterone cypionate 10 weeks decadurabin 500mg 10 weeks boldenone 250 mg 10 weeks, ********** 100mg last 3 weeks post cycle to perform was 5000 iu hcg two dose 2500 and 2500 then take clomid 100mg and nolvadex 30mg for 3 weeks, then did not get adequate testosterone, I went back to do another post cycle and take 5,000 iu hcg in two doses 2500 and 2500 and did not get what it wanted and got another blister 5000 of a single dose, to do that my testosterone low to 0 so that now I have no erection and that was three weeks ago, I am currently taking clomifero 100mg and nolvadex 30mg been taking it two weeks this will be the 3 that taketh and I have no testosterone or adequate libido, I have 20 years and I'm desperate hope that my circumstances have a solution, I have no lab results because recently I went to the doctor and he gave me appointment within 10 days, currently only get erection they are cialis, viagra or sedafilo as do I donot post cycle twice, I hope your answers I hope to help me and thank you!

CoastWatcher · May 23, 2016

So, you did a self-directed cycle and you're now undertaking a self-directed post-cycle-therapy, without the assistance of a doctor; is that right? You are 20 years old? In the absence of lab values to give insight into where things stand it is very hard to offer specific advice.

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...olics-You-May-Want-to-Read-this-HPTA-protocol

Please take a moment and read each of the posts in this thread. Very good information on restoring your axis. You are crashing around, trying to reach your destination without a map to guide you. When do you see the doctor? Does that physician have experience in helping men who have run a cycle?

Htx52086 · May 23, 2016

To be honest, it is hard to feel sorry for someone who does something as careless and stupid as you did at your age. Sometimes you get what you deserve. I will still try to help you out.

How long after your cycle did you start your PCT? You should've ran HCG 250iu 2x a week DURING your cycle, not 2500 2x after your cycle. The best use of HCG in your situation is to keep your testicles somewhat functioning/ticking during your cycle and never letting your testicles get completely shut down so it won't be as difficult to recover and get back to normal during PCT. Tren/Deca are notorious for being harsh on shutting you down, recovery is much worse than just testosterone alone. Did you run a dopamine agonist during this cycle for Prolactin issues? 500mg a week of Deca along with some ********** surely gave you Prolactin problems. Did you use an aromatase inhibitor during cycle? If you let your Estrodiol get out of control when running stuff like Tren/Deca then your Prolactin will follow which will cause you erectile dysfunction and many other problems. Also it is very hard to understand your post, I am guessing you do not speak english well.

Why did you run such a heavy cycle at age 20? How many cycles have you ran before this one? Are you a professional bodybuilder or making money off of your body in some kind of way? Are you an Olympic/professional Athlete? This is a very advanced cycle

At your age your natural growth, testosterone, and HPTA axis are all still developing and cycling before you are 25-26 causes permanent growth and hormone problems. You don't need to cycle at your age...you are a walking mini-cycle with your high natural testosterone and high growth hormone levels....or at least they were high before you did this cycle, now who knows.

Good luck, I hope you learned a lesson... but it might be too late.

PAUL-E · May 23, 2016

I am not an expert but as stated you used some compounds that are notorious for shutting you down then you used HCG at a vey high dose at the wrong time HCG will suppress your natural LH which is exactly what your trying to get back to send the signal to your balls to make more testosterone I hope you are seeing a doctor with experience with this kinda thing otherwise you could possibly end up worse off if you need guidance many suggest defy on this board for good reason best of luck

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

good thank you very much for the answer truth thx you have all the reason I've been an idiot because Trust me and do not take Arimidex during the cycle, and made 1 cycle in the past and I came genil but it was only 6 weeks to 250mg deca and winstrol 250mg of testosterone and the last 3 perform a post cycle equal to the cycle and everything went well even noticed me more testosterone than it was before the cycle the difference was 0.5 take arimidex every other day and 25 mg proviron daily that take during the cycle and no tube problems because when I made this stronger cycle does not take arimidex as I realized I was holding much liquid and hurt my nipples guess that prolactin was too high then decided to cut the cycle and take several arimidex I had, now nose if will estradiol, prolactin, cortisol or directly that this does not turn after ... it scares me when he says that maybe it's too late, is that possible? that risks can be, it is possible that no longer recovery from achieving a? finally master weights, I'm a fan of bodybuilding, with motivation to compete someday, I hope to recover and after this bad experience in any year if I was going to make me one serious cycle taking 250 mg 2 times week hcg besides the Arimidex and proviron and apart would not take much anabolitica dose, thank you have experience are an example to hopefully solve my problem and can stay motivated

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

I do not understand English well not me, I'm sorry, do not take Arimidex during the cycle is what I mean, in the previous cycle if you take it and I had no problems greetings friends

PAUL-E · May 23, 2016

I am not a judge but I would strongly suggest doing more research and becoming better educated as your "cycle" ideas seem all over the place. I hope things work out for you and you learned a lesion good luck

CoastWatcher · May 23, 2016

Cristian20blb said:
I do not understand English well not me, I'm sorry, do not take Arimidex during the cycle is what I mean, in the previous cycle if you take it and I had no problems greetings friends

What is your first language, Cristian? Where do you live? I ask because our mutual language challenge is working against us.

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

My first language is Spanish sorry for the inconvenience

Htx52086 · May 23, 2016

Cristian20blb said:
good thank you very much for the answer truth thx you have all the reason I've been an idiot because Trust me and do not take Arimidex during the cycle, and made 1 cycle in the past and I came genil but it was only 6 weeks to 250mg deca and winstrol 250mg of testosterone and the last 3 perform a post cycle equal to the cycle and everything went well even noticed me more testosterone than it was before the cycle the difference was 0.5 take arimidex every other day and 25 mg proviron daily that take during the cycle and no tube problems because when I made this stronger cycle does not take arimidex as I realized I was holding much liquid and hurt my nipples guess that prolactin was too high then decided to cut the cycle and take several arimidex I had, now nose if will estradiol, prolactin, cortisol or directly that this does not turn after ... it scares me when he says that maybe it's too late, is that possible? that risks can be, it is possible that no longer recovery from achieving a? finally master weights, I'm a fan of bodybuilding, with motivation to compete someday, I hope to recover and after this bad experience in any year if I was going to make me one serious cycle taking 250 mg 2 times week hcg besides the Arimidex and proviron and apart would not take much anabolitica dose, thank you have experience are an example to hopefully solve my problem and can stay motivated

Yes the language barrier does make this tuff, but there is no need to apologize.

Why take arimidex and proviron on the first smaller cycle and (im guessing) you have no problems then you decide to do a cycle with 5 different compounds with higher doses and then NOT use any arimidex? I would think it would be common sense to use arimidex again if it worked the first time, especially running more compounds and higher doses....

Also when you say you "had more testosterone" after your pct and first cycle, how long after your PCT did you get blood work done? Clomid makes your testosterone artificially high temporarily and your actual testosterone won't level out for weeks after you complete PCT. I am willing to bet anything you damaged your natural production permanently off of just the first cycle as well and your natural levels were lower afterwards than before you used steroids.

Also arimidex is used to prevent the problems you are talking about on cycle, it is not meant to take a large amount when you get scared and stop the cycle hoping that it will fix your problems, it doesn't work like that. It may help water retention, but if you have gyno and other problems it is too late to use arimidex and you either need a SERM (Nolvadex) or surgery.

Yes it is very possible to not recover at your age, and I actually think it is too late for you to recover. You have run more than one cycle that included Deca multiple times as well as ********** with the other compounds you used (too many to list) before the age of 25-26. Your chance of recovery is very very low if any. You need to see a Doctor, and he will most likely put you on a small dose of testosterone for a lifetime of injecting yourself. Also, even that might not cure your erectile dysfunction because of the damage you have done. You cycled way too many compounds way too early and did not do it correctly. This is what happens. If it was so harmless and everyone recovered then everyone would be using steroids...but they are far from harmless.

You "Are a fan of bodybuilding" and "some motivation to compete someday"? Wow, I don't understand why someone that isn't some kind of a professional would ever need to run a cycle like the one you ran. You could've had the same results running only 400-500mg of testosterone per week. The cycle you ran is similar to what professional athletes/bodybuilders/people who make money off of their body use. I don't understand why someone at age 20 is just doing a cycle that is so harsh and drastic for fun.

Not sure if I understand the last part of your post, you actually plan on trying to cycle again in the future? Are we all wasting our time here trying to help you? What is it going to take for you to realize you screwed up and should not be cycling steroids? If this is your plan, do not ask for help because you are just going to screw up again and you haven't learned your lesson. We can't help someone that is going to turn around and do the same stupid things again. Sorry, go see a Doctor

Good luck, go see a Doctor and tell him everything

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

when he says that there is no solution for erectile dysfunction that costs me to believe and yet scares me, if there bodybuilders several cycles per year they are made and are well because I would not recover me, if you see a doctor I have quoted in 10 days I hope that what you say is not true and I are scaring that can not be solved ... about what they had more testosterone after 1 cycle, nose the statistics laboratory only I libido was better and my sperm quality and so stayed until now that change certainly came to not get out ginetomastia, when I say that I would become a cycle I say this because I would do in a lot when my shaft is recovered and apart haria a small cycle as the 1 did, well I hope the doctor can recover and this has solution you are the one person who said I could stay like this, everyone told me that benching me, that you rely to suppose that I can not have a recovery with all the respect in the world, it's just that alarm me what it says have only 20 years would be very hard Biagra depend on for life, thanks greetings

sustainedenergy · May 23, 2016

Wow, that was painful to read.

Htx52086 · May 23, 2016

Cristian20blb said:
when he says that there is no solution for erectile dysfunction that costs me to believe and yet scares me, if there bodybuilders several cycles per year they are made and are well because I would not recover me, if you see a doctor I have quoted in 10 days I hope that what you say is not true and I are scaring that can not be solved ... about what they had more testosterone after 1 cycle, nose the statistics laboratory only I libido was better and my sperm quality and so stayed until now that change certainly came to not get out ginetomastia, when I say that I would become a cycle I say this because I would do in a lot when my shaft is recovered and apart haria a small cycle as the 1 did, well I hope the doctor can recover and this has solution you are the one person who said I could stay like this, everyone told me that benching me, that you rely to suppose that I can not have a recovery with all the respect in the world, it's just that alarm me what it says have only 20 years would be very hard Biagra depend on for life, thanks greetings

It should scare you and is most likely your reality. Who is to say those bodybuilders don't have erectile dysfunction and need viagra for the rest of their life? The ones that don't most likely didn't cycle until their HPTA axis/hormones/growth was fully developed at 25-26 years old and they also most likely ran their cycles correctly with the correct HCG and PCT use....nothing like you did at all. You did the opposite of the right things. Also, do you really think people who screwed up and used steroids like you are going to admit they have ED for life? Of course not....look at yourself for example...you have ran multiple PCTs and you are still having problems. What else do you need to realize that you are most likely screwed for life? Sorry if I am being harsh but it's the truth and you need to hear it.

I can't really understand what you are saying about laboratory and libido, but if you got blood work done too soon after you were taking Clomid then your Testosterone blood levels and sperm quality are going to be artificially higher/better. Get everything tested now or 6 weeks after you stop Clomid and I promise you will have poor natural results.

If after all of this and everything you have been through yet still want to run another cycle then I don't feel sorry for you and you honestly deserve what you are going through. Hard to feel sorry for someone that wants to keep making the same mistakes no matter what and ask for help.

You don't have to trust me on the fact that you will most likely not recover, I think you have already proven you will not recover on your own with multiple failed PCTs and the other problems you listed. The Doctor will also confirm what I have said and so will blood test results.

Good luck, and tell the Doctor everything...and make sure he knows what he is doing

Cristian20blb · May 23, 2016

my last hope is to detect me prolactin, estradiol or cortisol or other hormones out of range and I medicate and then my body can re-create testosterone naturally I hope you're wrong, and I'll tell you how it went I just want to say that my problem I think they were not the deca and trembo as did a post cycle and my testosterone was wrong but was recovering slowly a month of post cycle felt an acceptable testosterone but I had no patience and I made another post cycle, but it was worse and when I inject 2500 and 2500 increase increase but not as expected and when I inject 5000 coup then there was no way to have erection is the hcg at high doses I destroyed, read the cerulas of Leydin could desensitize but not what that means, someone could explain that? since it is assumed that my cerulas now Leydin are wrong and not to do so they are well