Hey guys..I am considering starting low does finasteride for hair security as I have been on TRT for a while. If finasteride raises T levels, why do some people have a lower libido? I guess they take too much and kill of their DHT? If you are on HRT, then this shouldn't be an issue if you are only taking it for hair lose? BTW i am planning to take 1mg 3x week. As that seems to be the amount needed for hair preservation.
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Joe Sixpack
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I took finasteride for 15 days while on TRT. I'll never take it again. Fin really took down my sex drive. I could actually see a physical difference in the size of my penis. Worse than that, the symptoms continued for a few months after I quit the stuff.
Your brain and organs need 5AR. Not sure why you want to risk joining the PFS crew.
Systemlord
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One can only speculate, but I could imagine if someone lost the ability to process androgens on target tissues do to receptor damage, the body would still attempt to create more to compensate.
As far as taking finasteride, do you want to lose your hair or possibly your sex life?
What dose were u taking?
madman
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I've been using finasteride for over 20 years. I split a 5mg tablet into four, so each dose is 1.25. Begin using it as it's cheap, whereas buying Propecia was expensive. I been using it for so long, I don't know if it's affecting me or not. I can get good firm erections, but don't ejaculate a lot. Part of that could be due to getting older, I don't know. As far a libido, I also take 5 mg of cialis everyday and am always horny. Even though I can get erections everyday, I can only have an orgasm and ejaculate about twice a week at most. Trying to do it anymore than that, never results in an orgasm. Is this a symptom of my long term use of Finasteride or, again, just aging? I don't know. As far as hair loss goes, I still have a full head of hair, whereas my brother is bald on top and he doesn't use Finasteride. I have thought about stopping it because of everything I have read on this forum. Wish there was a good alternative for hair loss.
madman
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Aging plays a role.
Having low-t can cause low libido, ED, low ejaculate volume, and reduced sensitivity.
BPH can also cause ED issues let alone reduced ejaculate volume.
The use of 5ARi (dutasteride/finasteride) to treat AA/BPH can produce an increase in the incidence of sexual dysfunction, namely, impotence, decreased libido, and ejaculation disorder.
Mind you not everyone will experience such side-effects.
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To answer every question you've ever had about semen, and some you wouldn't even think to ask, we asked Dr. Abraham Morgentaler, author of The Truth About Men and Sex and founder and director of Men's Health Boston, and did our own deep-dive into the complex – and sometimes sticky – world of semen.
A spoonful of semen
The average male produces between 1.5 and 5 milliliters, or 1/4 and 1 teaspoon, of semen per ejaculation, said, Morgentaler. The amount varies from person to person – Morgentaler calls people who produce higher than average quantities of semen "super shooters." The amount also varies depending on how intense the orgasm is and how long it's been since the man last ejaculated – for instance, if a man had sex twice in one day, the second ejaculation might be smaller, he said. It's not clear why some men produce more semen regularly, but the reasons why someone produces less could include having low levels of testosterone, taking certain medications, or dealing with the side effects of diabetes, Morgentaler said.
A source of protein
Semen is full of protein and naturally-occurring fructose. "The list of ingredients in semen is remarkably long and fascinating," said Morgentaler. "People have talked about whether semen could be a nourishing meal." He noted that he personally suspects the nutritional value of semen is probably a little scant and he wouldn't hazard a guess at a calorie count. Morgentaler did say this: "Nobody's going to gain weight by having a lot of oral sex."
Taste tests are... complicated
Unfortunately, there aren't many formal studies focusing on changing the taste of sperm. "I think (studies) would have trouble passing an ethics board (review)," said Morgentaler. "Taste is very subjective and you have to think: who is going to be the taster?" However, anecdotes and informal surveys suggest pineapple can be a factor in sweetening the taste of sperm, and some people believe vegetarians have "more palatable" semen than meat-eaters, he said. If there is a particularly foul odor or taste, it could be due to prostate infection, he said.
Sperm play a minor role
When it comes to pregnancy, these little swimmers are the MVPs. But when it comes to contributing to the overall volume of semen, they play a very minor role. In fact, sperm, which come from the testicles, make up just a tiny percentage of ejaculate, said Morgentaler. Seminal fluid, the other part of semen that comes from the seminal vesicles and the prostate, makes up almost all the final product, he said. And for men who've had vasectomies and some who are infertile? Sperm don't even come into play.
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One of the most common side-effects of using exogenous testosterone is shut-down of the hpta which leads to a lack of LH which stimulates the Leydig cells in the testes to produce ITT (intra-testicular testosterone) and lack of FSH which stimulates the Sertoli/germ cells to produce sperm.
Most men will experience testicular atrophy as a majority of testicular volume is made up of germ cells/seminiferous tubules which atrophy when using exogenous testosterone as sperm is no longer produced.
Most would think that atrophy of the testes will result in a large reduction in semen volume but sperm only make up a small percentage of ejaculate.
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Seminal vesicles
About 70-85% of the seminal fluid in humans originates from seminal vesicles.[10] The fluid consists of nutrients including fructose and citric acid, prostaglandins, and fibrinogen.[9] Nutrients help support sperm until fertilization occurs; prostaglandins may also assist by softening mucous of the cervix, and by causing reverse contractions of parts of the female reproductive tract such as the fallopian tubes, to ensure that sperm are less likely to be expelled.[9]
The ejaculatory ducts pass through the prostate gland.
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A spoonful of semen
The average male produces between 1.5 and 5 milliliters, or 1/4 and 1 teaspoon, of semen per ejaculation, said, Morgentaler. The amount varies from person to person – Morgentaler calls people who produce higher than average quantities of semen "super shooters." The amount also varies depending on how intense the orgasm is and how long it's been since the man last ejaculated – for instance, if a man had sex twice in one day, the second ejaculation might be smaller, he said. It's not clear why some men produce more semen regularly, but the reasons why someone produces less could include having low levels of testosterone, taking certain medications, or dealing with the side effects of diabetes, Morgentaler said.
A source of protein
Semen is full of protein and naturally-occurring fructose. "The list of ingredients in semen is remarkably long and fascinating," said Morgentaler. "People have talked about whether semen could be a nourishing meal." He noted that he personally suspects the nutritional value of semen is probably a little scant and he wouldn't hazard a guess at a calorie count. Morgentaler did say this: "Nobody's going to gain weight by having a lot of oral sex."
Taste tests are... complicated
Unfortunately, there aren't many formal studies focusing on changing the taste of sperm. "I think (studies) would have trouble passing an ethics board (review)," said Morgentaler. "Taste is very subjective and you have to think: who is going to be the taster?" However, anecdotes and informal surveys suggest pineapple can be a factor in sweetening the taste of sperm, and some people believe vegetarians have "more palatable" semen than meat-eaters, he said. If there is a particularly foul odor or taste, it could be due to prostate infection, he said.
Sperm play a minor role
When it comes to pregnancy, these little swimmers are the MVPs. But when it comes to contributing to the overall volume of semen, they play a very minor role. In fact, sperm, which come from the testicles, make up just a tiny percentage of ejaculate, said Morgentaler. Seminal fluid, the other part of semen that comes from the seminal vesicles and the prostate, makes up almost all the final product, he said. And for men who've had vasectomies and some who are infertile? Sperm don't even come into play.
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One of the most common side-effects of using exogenous testosterone is shut-down of the hpta which leads to a lack of LH which stimulates the Leydig cells in the testes to produce ITT (intra-testicular testosterone) and lack of FSH which stimulates the Sertoli/germ cells to produce sperm.
Most men will experience testicular atrophy as a majority of testicular volume is made up of germ cells/seminiferous tubules which atrophy when using exogenous testosterone as sperm is no longer produced.
Most would think that atrophy of the testes will result in a large reduction in semen volume but sperm only make up a small percentage of ejaculate.
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Seminal vesicles
Function
The seminal vesicles secrete a significant proportion of the fluid that ultimately becomes semen.[9] The fluid is secreted from the ejaculatory ducts of the vesicles into the vas deferens, where it becomes part of semen. This then passes through the urethra, where it is ejaculated during a male sexual response.[8]About 70-85% of the seminal fluid in humans originates from seminal vesicles.[10] The fluid consists of nutrients including fructose and citric acid, prostaglandins, and fibrinogen.[9] Nutrients help support sperm until fertilization occurs; prostaglandins may also assist by softening mucous of the cervix, and by causing reverse contractions of parts of the female reproductive tract such as the fallopian tubes, to ensure that sperm are less likely to be expelled.[9]
The ejaculatory ducts pass through the prostate gland.
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andrepohlann
Member
May I ask for your Testosterone dose and shedule?
I inject about 65 ml twice a week, along with HCG 500 ml twice a week, along with the daily cialis. I was taking 1/2 mg of Anastrozole twice a week as well, but stopped it about a month ago, after reading so much negative stuff about it.
andrepohlann
Member
Thanks
. And you do this all the time with the Fina? Or did you start Finasteride before TRT?
Notice any differences since stopping the ai?
Joe Sixpack
Active Member
5mg/day. I was taking the higher dose for enlarged prostate. My hairline was a lost cause by that point.
madman
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Discuss Finasteride.....57:00-1:00:17
Morgentaler's thoughts on Finasteride say it all.....1:00:17-1:02:40
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andrepohlann
Member
It is random. They do not seem to know much about this topic.Discuss Finasteride.....57:00-1:00:17
Morgentaler's thoughts on Finasteride say it all.....1:00:17-1:02:40
The Truth About Low T
The Truth About Low Testosterone Explained By Urology Expert Dr. Abraham Morgentaler
I started Finasteride over twenty years ago when I started losing my hair. Didn't start using TRT until years later.Thanks
Or did you start Finasteride before TRT?
No, not yet. I'm going to get blood tests done next month, so I'll see what my levels are.
Good discussion on the benefits of TestosteroneDiscuss Finasteride.....57:00-1:00:17
Morgentaler's thoughts on Finasteride say it all.....1:00:17-1:02:40
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