Fathers and transdermals: what's optimal?

[DHM]

I've got a toddler at home and have always been set on IM/SQ.

Wondering if I can optimize timing and placement (ie first thing at work, crotch or ribs).

Fathers with feedback let me know, thanks.

 

[Gene Devine]

If it were me and I had a baby at home I'd opt for injections...while the risks for transferal are very remote there is still a slight chance and not worth it to me.

That's why many men with children opt of injections v. transdermals.

 

[DHM]

Same thoughts exactly Gene, always been against it.

Just trying to get perspective from users who have gone down this road, thanks.

 

[Bass]

I wish they do a way with gels, they are expensive, risky and not as effective as the shots.

 

[RapperT]

fortesta works great for me...upper thigh application is pretty safe too

 

[Neil Olson]

One of my main reasons for leaving androgel was my sons waking up routine. He would climb up on my lap while he wakes up. When I went on androgel he was no longer allowed to. I hated it because I enjoyed it as much as him.

 

[DHM]

My situation exactly. Mornings are for my kid and I would rather suffer than take a paracrine risk.

It's clear I am biased and really just gathering applied knowledge for talks with my PCP and other docs that try to spin this because it's easier than IM

 

[Gene Devine]

My situation exactly. Mornings are for my kid and I would rather suffer than take a paracrine risk.

It's clear I am biased and really just gathering applied knowledge for talks with my PCP and other docs that try to spin this because it's easier than IM

TD's easier than IM?

IM is a much easier protocol; one to two shots a week that take all of 5 minutes and you're done with it at no risk to the family.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

 

[Bass]

and if you're not comfortable with IM try SQ, no pain.

 

[DHM]

From a PCP perspective that is not well-versed.

 

[Gene Devine]

From a PCP perspective that is not well-versed.

^^^^ Huh???

 

[Smokin Joe]

I agree with Bass. Do away with gels. After two weeks on Fortesta I'm back on injections. Going to try SQ starting this week. Hoping to start HCG as soon as I can fing a Doc to perscribe. Most anti-aging docs want a $1000.00 maintenance fee to write scripts.
Good Luck

 

[DHM]

For example, some of us have HMO/PPOs where we are trying to get treatment from a PCP that is not well versed in HRT and we need rebuttals.

For example,

-PCP doesnt understand relationship between FT and TT.

-PCP agrees to TRT, would rather gel you up than Rx a IMJ.

-PCP responds with upper thigh/crotch application to support TD with minimal paracrine abs.

In our society right now, we have to pay to play because HMOs and big pharma are driving their agenda.

 

[bruin]

IM is the way to go. I changed 2 Dr's till I found one that would let me self inject. Prefer IM over SQ as I have always developed a bruise. SQ is a breeze with my HCG, do not even feel the insertion whether it be abdominal or upper leg
Duane

 

[Bass]

IM is the way to go. I changed 2 Dr's till I found one that would let me self inject. Prefer IM over SQ as I have always developed a bruise. SQ is a breeze with my HCG, do not even feel the insertion whether it be abdominal or upper leg
Duane

how much do you inject? usually a comfortable shot for SQ is 50 mgs, or 1/4 ml. anything more you'll end up with a lump. some have tolerated the whole 200mgs, but majority sits well within he 50 mgs. I do twice a week protocol and only inject 50 mgs at a time, total of 100 mgs ew. I've gone to 60 mgs SQ and it was fine too.

 

[bruin]

I am on the same protocol as you. never experienced " the bump " it is visible but lasts only a few seconds and dissipates, and Wham black and blue the size of a bean. which is noticeable in that area....any area

 

[Bass]

black and blue is usually blood leaking under the skin, you could be little veiny in the fat, or simply don't have enough fat! the best place for SQ without any issues is the glute, just harder to reach. what I do is hit the same spot no sooner than 6 weeks timing, basically I do belly area, thighs, love handles, glutes, etc... so by the time I make my round its about six weeks gap.