Hello Everyone,
I'm excited to be part of this forum.
A little history:
I had been using "steroids" in sports for many years. About six years ago I met someone and decided that I wanted to get off of everything, so I tampered off and went clean for a year. No PCT. Of course, I felt like crap for the year, so finally went to a doctor and they diagnose me with low testosterone. At that point they gave me the option to get on testosterone injection or gel, but I refused and said that I wanted to wait, at least, another six months. During the six months I took anything natural I could to help kick start my testosterone including tribulus and many other herbal tinctures, but six months later I still felt horrible and very depressed. It ruined and ultimately ended my relationship, so I went back to see the doctor and surely enough my test levels were still very low (in the bottom quarter of the range). I was then refereed to an endocrinologist.
The endocrinologist ran more tests and determined that everything other than my testosterone and estradiol levels were in normal range. He said that normal protocol was that if testosterone was at the bottom of the range it would need to be supplemented. So, he put me on 100mg of enanthate once a week and I started to feel better. After about 2 months I mentioned that it felt like my testicles were getting smaller. He put me on hcg at some ridiculous high dose, which I had reduced after reading some posts online. I had been seeing this endo for over 4 year and then one day i get a call from my pharmacy and they were told that this doctor will not see anymore patients for TRT! I was shocked. Couldn't believe that a doctor would just abandon a long term patient. Very unprofessional in my opinion. I asked what the reason was and they told me that it was because I hadn't been in to see him for over a year, but during my last visit I questioned he about scheduling regular 6 month visits in advance and he told me there was no need. As long I continued the same routine everything would be fine. I later discovered that what he said was incorrect by my present doctor/naturopath.
My current doctor/naturopath is an anti-aging doctor. By the time I had discovered this doctor I had altered my injection routine at least a half dozen time trying everything from weekly injection to twice a week to every other day, but couldn't seem to get it right. During my first visit with this doctor/naturopath, I told him that I had been injecting 40mg test 3 times a week and 120iu HCG every other day. He said that it was fine and ran some other test and a 24 urine test. My results were that everything seemed in range, but he felt that my HGH was a little low so I was prescribed 1iu every day (injection pen). Anyways, a year later this is what my current protocol looks like:
20mg Cypionate mixed with 50iu HCG - 6 days a week monday to saturday (insulin needle)
1iu of HGH (injection pen) - every other day
25mg DHEA - 7 days a week
7.5mcgs of T3 - 7 days a week in morning on empty stomach
I have arimidex on hand if needed, but currently not in my protocol.
Prior to starting this latest protocol
I was using 60mg of Cypionate twice a week, 150iu HCG twice a week, 1iu of HGH 7 days a week and 50 mg of DHEA every day and after getting tested all my levels were perfect, but I had very sensitive nipples (couldn't even tough then) and lumps under both nipples. Also, was getting a thicker waistline and outgrew all of my pants. All of these effects happened within a very short period. Prior to this I was lean and vascular. Something went wrong. I told my doctor/naturopath and suspected that it might be a pituitary glad issue causing the gyno and I got tested. My pituitary glad level was within range. Neither of us really knew what was going on. I had mentioned that I once tried DHEA many years ago and felt really good, so out of curiosity he tested my DHEA levels and that came back at almost zero (0), but I was told that trt can drop DHEA levels which is why I take it.
So i changed to my current protocol thinking that it might help, but I still have sensitive nipples and lump. Nothing has gotten better.
I have not gotten tested on my current cycle, but I have noticed a couple of things:
1. I loose my temper faster
2. While psychologically worse (i think), my physical ability to get an erection is more normal.
3. With regards to DHEA, I definitely feel better on 50 mg daily as opposed to 25 mg daily, but have lowered it because of sore nipples/gyno?
I know that the daily cypionate injection protocol is kind of crazy, but i'm at my wits end and really don't know how to make everything work in harmony.
My friends, what I am looking for is to have energy to workout, have a normal sex drive, be in good spirits most of the time stay lean. I do not care about being overly muscular or "ripped". Much like the majority of you, I just want to feel great and look good. I apologize for rambling on, but i'm very frustrated. So, if anyone can help me out with any of this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Stats:
Male
41 years old
Approx: 230 lbs (have gained about 15 to 20 pounds since last may) NOT muscle!
6'1" height
workout 3 - 4 times a week if possible (combination of weights and cardio)
I'm excited to be part of this forum.
A little history:
I had been using "steroids" in sports for many years. About six years ago I met someone and decided that I wanted to get off of everything, so I tampered off and went clean for a year. No PCT. Of course, I felt like crap for the year, so finally went to a doctor and they diagnose me with low testosterone. At that point they gave me the option to get on testosterone injection or gel, but I refused and said that I wanted to wait, at least, another six months. During the six months I took anything natural I could to help kick start my testosterone including tribulus and many other herbal tinctures, but six months later I still felt horrible and very depressed. It ruined and ultimately ended my relationship, so I went back to see the doctor and surely enough my test levels were still very low (in the bottom quarter of the range). I was then refereed to an endocrinologist.
The endocrinologist ran more tests and determined that everything other than my testosterone and estradiol levels were in normal range. He said that normal protocol was that if testosterone was at the bottom of the range it would need to be supplemented. So, he put me on 100mg of enanthate once a week and I started to feel better. After about 2 months I mentioned that it felt like my testicles were getting smaller. He put me on hcg at some ridiculous high dose, which I had reduced after reading some posts online. I had been seeing this endo for over 4 year and then one day i get a call from my pharmacy and they were told that this doctor will not see anymore patients for TRT! I was shocked. Couldn't believe that a doctor would just abandon a long term patient. Very unprofessional in my opinion. I asked what the reason was and they told me that it was because I hadn't been in to see him for over a year, but during my last visit I questioned he about scheduling regular 6 month visits in advance and he told me there was no need. As long I continued the same routine everything would be fine. I later discovered that what he said was incorrect by my present doctor/naturopath.
My current doctor/naturopath is an anti-aging doctor. By the time I had discovered this doctor I had altered my injection routine at least a half dozen time trying everything from weekly injection to twice a week to every other day, but couldn't seem to get it right. During my first visit with this doctor/naturopath, I told him that I had been injecting 40mg test 3 times a week and 120iu HCG every other day. He said that it was fine and ran some other test and a 24 urine test. My results were that everything seemed in range, but he felt that my HGH was a little low so I was prescribed 1iu every day (injection pen). Anyways, a year later this is what my current protocol looks like:
20mg Cypionate mixed with 50iu HCG - 6 days a week monday to saturday (insulin needle)
1iu of HGH (injection pen) - every other day
25mg DHEA - 7 days a week
7.5mcgs of T3 - 7 days a week in morning on empty stomach
I have arimidex on hand if needed, but currently not in my protocol.
Prior to starting this latest protocol
I was using 60mg of Cypionate twice a week, 150iu HCG twice a week, 1iu of HGH 7 days a week and 50 mg of DHEA every day and after getting tested all my levels were perfect, but I had very sensitive nipples (couldn't even tough then) and lumps under both nipples. Also, was getting a thicker waistline and outgrew all of my pants. All of these effects happened within a very short period. Prior to this I was lean and vascular. Something went wrong. I told my doctor/naturopath and suspected that it might be a pituitary glad issue causing the gyno and I got tested. My pituitary glad level was within range. Neither of us really knew what was going on. I had mentioned that I once tried DHEA many years ago and felt really good, so out of curiosity he tested my DHEA levels and that came back at almost zero (0), but I was told that trt can drop DHEA levels which is why I take it.
So i changed to my current protocol thinking that it might help, but I still have sensitive nipples and lump. Nothing has gotten better.
I have not gotten tested on my current cycle, but I have noticed a couple of things:
1. I loose my temper faster
2. While psychologically worse (i think), my physical ability to get an erection is more normal.
3. With regards to DHEA, I definitely feel better on 50 mg daily as opposed to 25 mg daily, but have lowered it because of sore nipples/gyno?
I know that the daily cypionate injection protocol is kind of crazy, but i'm at my wits end and really don't know how to make everything work in harmony.
My friends, what I am looking for is to have energy to workout, have a normal sex drive, be in good spirits most of the time stay lean. I do not care about being overly muscular or "ripped". Much like the majority of you, I just want to feel great and look good. I apologize for rambling on, but i'm very frustrated. So, if anyone can help me out with any of this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Stats:
Male
41 years old
Approx: 230 lbs (have gained about 15 to 20 pounds since last may) NOT muscle!
6'1" height
workout 3 - 4 times a week if possible (combination of weights and cardio)
