Could I still do a restart at this point?

[atlien2488]

I haven’t posted in awhile and have been on TRT since last March. I am thinking about coming off to try a natural restart just to make sure It is my only options. TRT has helped with many symptoms however, it has inexplicably hurt my erections. (recent estradiol and prolactin have come back within normal range so I’m not sure what is causing it.). But long story short I’m wondering if it is even worth the bother of eating super healthy, meditating, healthy fats and a restart protocol or if my numbers just warrant me staying on.
I am 30, weigh about 220, 15 percent bodyfat, have been eating healthy for a long time , previous illicit drug use, mostly in college, no steroid cycle history before TRT. Below are my numbers of some tests I had before I started TRT. I realize that I should have had FSH and t3, t4, etc tested, but it didn’t happen.
My question is, do you think after 10 months, I could give myself a chance to restart my natural T? I’m fear that after a few years, it will be impossible to do and I’m worried about some of the health issues I’ve read including heart issues, fertility issues and raised cholesterol. Another issue is that sometimes I don’t have the same hardness of erection as I used to which is a huge problem. I know certain studies are inconclusive, but I would like to give the natural route one more chance possibly…Do you think with my test results, this is possible or are they so low that I should really just be on it? Thanks.
About:
160 mg test weekly, hcg 400 mcg twice a week (cycled every couple months to prevent possible desensitized leydig cells) and 6.25 mg of aromasin. Here are some of my tests done in the months following up to deciding to go on trt. Most were under 300 ng/dl. In general, the testosterone has helped me with confidence and energy but has hurt erection quality and I fear about being able to come off if health issues arise later in life. My doctor had said that my estradiol was so low, that it was unlikely that a clomid restart would work. I have many recent tests but the main numbers I’m posting are numbers I had prior to TRT.
Nov 7th 17: total t: 282 ng/dl
nov 16th 17: total T: 421 ng/dl (highest I’ve seen it)
feb 2018: total T: 379 ng/dl. Free t: 8.3 (9-27)
march 18, 2018:
Total T: 291 (264-916)
free T: 9 (9.3-26.5)
LH: 2.2 (1.7-8.6)
Prolactin: 5.1 (4-15.2)
estradiol: 6.4 (7.6-42) Low
SHBG: 32 (16.5-56)
TSH- .473 (.45-5.0)
CMP:
Glucose: 81 (65-99)
Urea Nitrogen: 12 (6-20)
Creatinine: 1.09 (.76-1.27)
EGFR (non black)- 92 (>59ml/min/1.73)
EGFR (black)- 106 (>59ml/min/1.73)
BUN/Creatinine Ratio- 11 (9-20)
Sodium- 141 (134-144)
Potassium 4.0 (3.5-5.2)
Chloride- 102 (96-106)
Total CO2- 25 (18-29 mmol/L)
Anion GAP 14 (10-18)
Calcium- 9.0 (8.7- 10.2)
Protein, TOTAL- 6.2 (6.0-8.5)
Albumin, S 4.3 (3.5-5.5)
Globulin 1.9 (1.5-4.5)
A/G 2.3 (1.2-2.2) High
Bilirubin 0.5 (0.0-1.2)
Alkptase 38 (39-117)
AST (GOT) 19 (0-40 IU/L)
ALT (GPT) 23 (0-44 IU/L)
CBC:
WBC:5.8 (3.4-10.8)
RBC: 4.77 (4.14-5.80)
HGB: 14.9 (12.6-17.7)
HCT: 42.3 (37.5-51%)
MCV: 89 (79-97)
MCH: 31.2 (26.6-33)
MCHC: 35.2 (31.5-35.7)
RDW: 13.4 (12.3-15.4)
Placelet CT: 216 (150-379)
MY Lipid profile is skewed because I accidently ate before this particular test. My doctor said my values were normal considering how soon after I took it
:
Cholesterol: 193 (100-199)
Triglyceride 164 (H) (0-149)
HDL Cholesterol:37 (L) (>39mg/dl)
VLDL: 33 (5-40)
LDL Cholesterol : 123 (H) (0-99)
CHOL/HDL Ratio 5.2 (H) (0.0-5.0 units)

 

[Vince Carter]

"normal range" very infrequently means that it's good for "you" with Estrogen in particular. Too you're using the wrong test. Seems to me you're making judgements on TRT with flawed info and bad testing. More to the point youre not new around here to still be failing at acquiring the proper tests because this get's hammered on the forum repeatedly.

 

[atlien2488]

which flawed info might you be talking about? Are you also referring to the difference between the estradiol and estradiol sensitive tests?

 

[Vince]

You definitely could try a restart, you may want to research clomid. Just make sure you use low dose 12.5 mg every other day. Most issues caused by clomid, is from dose being too high.

 

[atlien2488]

Yeah i've researched everything for weeks. I'm pretty versed with clomid. I'm just wondering if anyone has a similar experience or feels the numbers I listed warrant being on TRT for life. Half of them were under 300 ng/dl which is crazy low but for some reason I'm still feeling guilty about using it for life so a part of me wants to try the reset.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Let me get this straight. You inject 160mg and your free T is 9? This is very low. Have you considered that your erection problems are because your testosterone levels are too low? Similarly your E2 at 6 is horribly low, just horrible. Of course you can't get an erection. You need a healthy level of E2 to have erectile function. You are not really getting any benefits at this dose. You just need more testosterone. More T will give you more E2 as well as more healthy levels of free T. Furthermore you are taking aromasin. This is an E2 suppressor. Why are you taking this at E2 of 6? You are sabotaging yourself. You should not be suppressing your E2 since you are already deficient.

 

[atlien2488]

Joe, you must not have read my post. These are numbers from a year ago BEFORE starting TRT. Obviously my numbers are optimized now that I’ve been on a regimen for this long. I have attached my latest numbers below. I attached my numbers before going on because I want to get a consensus from people whether those numbers warrant me have going on in the first place.....or if you guys think I could improve those numbers naturally at 30 years old.