BioEnergy testing

[Brooksy Chuck]

Has anyone tried this? i am wondering if it could be good of if it is just a hype. One of the Dr's I am seeing wants me to do the test, it costs $300 ..if it helped with thyroid and this immune and low energy stuff.. i would do it..but am skeptical.

http://www.doctorsaputo.com/a/bioenergy-testing-with-frank-shallenberger-md
http://www.antiagingmedicine.com/treatments/bio-energy-testing

 

[Nelson Vergel]

It sounds kind of too good to be true.

Too bad they offer not a single scientific reference. The science site he mentions on the podcast is in Chinese.

It sounds like a VO2 max test. He also measured the carbon dioxide your body produces. This is actually not new and has been used a lot in metabolic testing of athletes.

You may want to read this about his troubles with the CA medical board:
http://www.truthaboutshallenberger.com/


He uses ozone and hydrogen peroxide IVs. My HIV+ friends who used that died pretty quickly.

I did a search for his patent and found nothing.

Here is a lecture he gave (attachment)

 

[Brooksy Chuck]

thank you Nelson for helping- i am in a fog latley. the dr that wants to do the tests is Lenn Supato, i will look him up as well. he takes insurnce but the test cost $300 i hink i am going to pass. i am so sick of these dr's charging and arm and leg saying they can help- at this point in my illness i can no longer afford an arm or leg! i havent been able to work in a few years- thank goodness i have some ssdi and disability from my old employer- but with all my supplements (it costs 1/2 my rent- and that is alot in the bay area) i am pretty low on "extra get well cash" i appreciate your feedback and taking the time to look at all that, thank you
glad i have some left over Nuvigil from last year, a little bit goes a long way, and sometimes it helps-

look at this guy's rates ! http://www.neilnathanmd.com/appointments.html
i have found at cpmc they have an integrative medical clinic- they should take my insurance ..worth a shot, although i haven' had much luck
http://www.cpmc.org/services/ihh/clinic/sfpractitioners.html

 

[Nelson Vergel]

It would be good to check his book on chronic fatigue:

"everal years ago, I began to teach my colleagues what I had learned about working with chronically ill patients and I called this course "What Every Physician Should Know About Working With Complex Medical Illness." My patients asked me to provide this same information in a somewhat simplified form, and that is how my books, first "On Hope and Healing" and my new book, "Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia , Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses" came to be. My text, for those books, is derived from the distillation of countless patient visits. When I found a patient's eyes glazing over as I began to explain some details of biochemistry, I took note. When they sat up, alertly and asked cogent questions, I took note of that, too."


http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Possible-Fibromyalgia-Persistent-Illnesses/dp/1591203082

I will order it and review it since I am writing a book about fatigue called Fatigue No More.

 

[Brooksy Chuck]

keep me posted! i will try to see if i can find one at the library- as i order books and they are good for collecting dust. glad you are writing a new book~

 

[giamegan]

surely its too good to be true