Nelson Vergel
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Looks like we need an ask Dr Strum thread where he can intro himself and field questions.
Good idea. This thread is only for Dr McClain.
Welcome Dr Strum. Could you please email me at [email protected] ? Thanks
Looks like we need an ask Dr Strum thread where he can intro himself and field questions.

So my doc has scheduled me to get some blood work done to see if my current dose of Genotropin at 0.3mg is sufficient enough so I am stable, or whether the blood results would warrant an increase. My pituitary gland is damaged due to unknown reasons. The eight individual GHST all had values of Human Growth Hormone <0.05 ng/mL.
My question is whether my current gh dose (0.3mg) has now stabilized my growth hormone levels so that it is in the acceptable range for hgh levels when I get the blood results back. My goal is for the doc needs to increase it. I don’t pay a dime for mine, which is awesome! My natural gh levels are in the tank, so I know if I stopped taking my Genotropin, it would go back to where it used to be.
However, here is my dilemma, if I stopped taking my growth hormone a week (or possibly even two weeks) before my labs are scheduled, would my natural growth hormone go back to being extremely low (outside of the normal range, below <0.05 ng/mL)? Or do I need to stop the injections even earlier? Obviously, the goal for me is to have my endo keep increasing the Genotropin at no cost so I don't have to pay for more out of pocket. For example, if I started gh injections for six weeks before my next Human Growth Hormone test, when would I need to stop injecting 0.3mg daily to be certain that my next blood work will match the very first GHST results, so she increases the gh dose to maybe 0.6mg or even 0.9mg.
Right now, I am 28 years old, former college football player at the University of Oregon, 6'2" 360 (27.3% bf) and on a steady dose of 250mg of Test Cyp (TRT) and 0.3mg of Genotropin rhGH. I would to be on at a minimum of 1.2mg of rhGH daily (4IUs) or max out at 1.6-1.8mg (5-6IUs) of rhGH daily for the near future. What kind of results should I expect with a clean diet and running test and pharm grade gh at those doses?
Just curious - What was the GHST you had done? Glucagon?
What is your IGF-1 level? Are you using the Genotropin Miniquicks?
Thank you for the reply sir!
Yes, I took Glucagon before the GHST, and all eight GHST values were >0.5mg/mL. The IGF-1 level was at 78 ng/mL. I am using the Genotropin 5mg pens.
So I assume you were diagnosed with AGHD as documented by your tests and symptoms? The tough part is getting insurance to cover even with a clear cut case of AGHD, but you probably already knew that. Other question I'm curious to know: have you had a brain MRI to determine if you have ESS (empty sella syndrome)? In some cases, it can mimic hypopituitarism. How are your other hormones (thyroid, estrogens, prog, preg, prolactin, FSH/LH)?
Yes, I got the full diagnosis from my endocrinologist. My insurance pays for 100 percent of the rhGH. Lucky me! MRI results on my pituitary gland came back negative. I am on TRT 200mg/week and 125mcg of Synthroid ED, along with 0.3mg of somatropin. The goal is to increase the rhGH to at least 1.2mg or even 1.8mg ED. I need to do a follow up blood test in mid-July. So to get an increased dose of my Genotropin, how long before should I stop taking my usual dose of 0.3mg to get my rhGH levels in my blood below >0.5ng/mL?
Specifics as to dosing should be addressed with your endocrinologist.
I will start deleting posts that have nothing to do with questions for Dr McClain.
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Thank you.
Happy Easter Doc!
I switched to daily .1ml injections of Cyp from a cream compound at the end of December 2017. I also started HCG in mid January. I had good testical recovery from daily injections of 125ml HCG, but the bloat was pretty severe. I stopped taking the HCG four weeks ago, and the bloat has decreased. Is there a way to minimize the bloat for HCG, is there a time frame when it should resolve it self? If I am going to react to it, is there a minium dosage you have found to still activate the testicals?
Thank you for your time.
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