A month with no testosterone

[thatoneguy]

So do to a mistake somewhere down the line, I seem to be missing a vial of testosterone. So I will be without for a little over a month.

I figured I should continue to take my HCG, but probably should not take my AI.

Any other advice as far as what to do so I don't feel like complete crap?

I do have some clomid I could take in the mean time if you think that would help.

 

[Vince Carter]

Something preventing you from reordering or replacing that vial that you have to go without?

 

[thatoneguy]

Pharmacy states they sent two vials, I appear to have only 1 vial, so who knows if I lost it or there was a mistake in shipping, I know pharmacies have pretty good systems in place to prevent mistakes like that. So I can't reorder until January

 

[johndoesmith]

So do to a mistake somewhere down the line, I seem to be missing a vial of testosterone. So I will be without for a little over a month.

I figured I should continue to take my HCG, but probably should not take my AI.

Any other advice as far as what to do so I don't feel like complete crap?

I do have some clomid I could take in the mean time if you think that would help.

If you lost it, you may be out of luck as testosterone is scheduled in the USA and most other countries.

You probably shouldn't take AI without taking test.

 

[CoastWatcher]

I would never take an AI in the absence of exogenous testosterone. Aren't you a Defy patient? Have you contacted them?

 

[thatoneguy]

I have, they contacted the pharmacy to try and sort it out, but unfortunately the pharmacy is sure they sent 2 vials, so not much they can do

 

[CPTWilly]

If I were you, I would ask the defy about increasing the HCG dose while you are out of testosterone.

 

[Vince Carter]

was that pharmacy Hallandale or APS...my last ship from Hallandale was two 5ml vials, my most recent from APS was one 10ml vial. Just curious if it's Hallandale that could get another mark against their name.

 

[johndoesmith]

was that pharmacy Hallandale or APS...my last ship from Hallandale was two 5ml vials, my most recent from APS was one 10ml vial. Just curious if it's Hallandale that could get another mark against their name.

I'm curious, what's the disadvantage to 2 5ml vials?

 

[Vince Carter]

I'm curious, what's the disadvantage to 2 5ml vials?

I didn't say that there is a disadvantage, I didn't even imply that. What I'm leaning on is recent discussion that Hallandale isn't the best place to be getting your meds from.

 

[johndoesmith]

I didn't say that there is a disadvantage, I didn't even imply that. What I'm leaning on is recent discussion that Hallandale isn't the best place to be getting your meds from.

Sorry, I must have misread what you said or not taken into context the comment previous to this one below.

"my last ship from Hallandale was two 5ml vials, my most recent from APS was one 10ml vial. Just curious if it's Hallandale that could get another mark against their name."

 

[thatoneguy]

It was hallandale, and normally I get 2 5ml vials.

Now I can't say for a fact that hallandale messed up and only sent me 1 vial, but from now on I will be verifying the contents of all my shipments when they arrive.

Maybe I've been sleep injecting, which would be pretty impressive.

My plan going foward will be 40mg of testosterone a week for the next 6 weeks, down from 80mg twice weekly. My HCG I will probably increase, but I'll talk to defy first, and hold of on my AI. Hopefully it is not to terrible.

 

[Leesto]

Hallandale is my pharmacy too. I usually get the syringes and meds together but this last time they omitted the syringes.

They immediately shipped the syringes once they were notified but meanwhile a holiday weekend had intervened and this delayed my injection.

Prior to this incident I had no problems with them. Will keep extra syringes on hand as a precaution.

 

[Vince]

It seems like a lot of people are unhappy with Hallandale, I'm going to request only APS from Defy. Luckily APS is all I've been sent.

 

[endopa-c]

@ thatoneguy- call me at the clinic today so I can access your chart and formulate a plan for you. Ask for Melissa. If I'm in a consult I'll call you back. I don't know your name obviously or I would call you.

 

[Vince Carter]

It seems like a lot of people are unhappy with Hallandale, I'm going to request only APS from Defy. Luckily APS is all I've been sent.

They will do that, I asked Defy when placing my last order that it only come from APS.

 

[thatoneguy]

I would like to thank Melissa with Defy Medical, for going out of her way to help me out. Regardless of whether it was the pharmacy's error or my own, she worked with me to come up with a solution. This goes to show you that Defy Medical has outstanding service and employ people who really care about their patients.

 

[newguy128]

I figured I should continue to take my HCG, but probably should not take my AI.

R. HCG raises estradiol, personally I would take an AI EOD while on HCG. Say 12.5 mg. EOD of Aromasin, should keep estrogen in check. Labs help you know where your estrogen levels are at so you can adjust your AI dose accordingly.

 

[Vince]

I figured I should continue to take my HCG, but probably should not take my AI.

R. HCG raises estradiol, personally I would take an AI EOD while on HCG. Say 12.5 mg. EOD of Aromasin, should keep estrogen in check. Labs help you know where your estrogen levels are at so you can adjust your AI dose accordingly.

I doubt that adding 350-500 IU HCG twice per week to TRT increases estradiol by more than 10-20 %
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...-promote-excessive-aromatization-while-on-TRT

 

[Helboi]

I would never let Hallandale refill my test script again. I ask for APS or anyone else. Hallandale underfills their bottles (all compound pharmacy's supposedly overfill their 10ml bottles of test by 1ml to make up for wastage, but I've tracked theirs closely and they do not).