A cruel irony of TRT

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ironlegal

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People between ages 50 and 80 have sex twice a month on average, the survey found. While 37% reported not having sex anymore these days, 27% said they have sex at least once a month if not more.

And then women over 50 wonder why men their own age date younger women…..
 
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Everyone is different. Here is my situation. My wife and I are both 69 years old. We have been married almost 51 years. We are both on TRT and also take PDE-5 inhibitors as well as numerous amino acids and supplements. We also try to keep our Nitric Oxide levels as high as possible. I try to keep sex interesting and fun to keep her interest high. The result: we have sex 3 to 4 times per week... sometimes twice in the same day. But, as you all know, we are all different.
What level of TRT does your wife take? I am curious because you rarely hear about women on it (unless they are trans).
My wife is in her mid 50’s and tolerates sex but rarely initiates it.
You mention that you both take PDE-5 inhibitors, I had to look that up to find out it’s just Viagra, Cialis, etc. how does that help a woman? They’ve been talking about “female viagra” forever and I thought that was because regular viagra doesn’t work on women. Or does it?
 

Willyt

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My wife was on pellets thru her OB/Gyn. Scars on top of scars, and she metabolized the pellets quickly so she was on a roller coaster. Got her connected with Defy and they put her on shots. What a difference! We don't -dare- miss our shots now!
What is your wife's injection protocol? I am curious see whether they prescribed her testosterone.
 

Runnerman

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My mom who is 89 says any woman who says she loses her desire after menopause is a liar. Like I said, it's a small survey.
This is a good discussion, I’m glad to see I’m not alone. I think there is some difference also if a woman has had a hysterectomy with ovary removal vs. still having her ovaries. We are both in our mid 50s and my wife went through a hysterectomy early due to endometriosis. Without her ovaries, her desire for sex plummeted. We talked about it and she knows it. At the time I didn’t realize the impact this surgery would have on her overall. The whole past scare of women's HRT kept her from pursuing any of that. We are close to having sex once a month but it varies and it’s usually me initiating. Vaginal dryness has been an issue and so we just always use lube which seems to have helped. Since a woman’s testosterone comes from her ovaries and adrenal glands (I think), I have often wondered how she would do with a very small injection of testosterone once a week.
 

MarcoFL

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My wife was on pellets thru her OB/Gyn. Scars on top of scars, and she metabolized the pellets quickly so she was on a roller coaster. Got her connected with Defy and they put her on shots. What a difference! We don't -dare- miss our shots now!

Can't hurt to get your PCP to order labs and see where she sits on the hormone meters (her doc should be doing this anyway, IMHO).
Shots make all the difference in the world! My wife was on cream for years and she would never go back to cream now! We are in our late 50's
 

barry1

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I'm 75, been on TRT for about 8 years. Enjoying sex just about every other dayone way on another. Wife not as into it but usually accommodating for which I am grateful. As a nurse practitioner working in regenerative med and men's health I have learned that some practitioners won't treat half a couple. Can get troublesome.
 

MIP1950

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My wife was on pellets thru her OB/Gyn. Scars on top of scars, and she metabolized the pellets quickly so she was on a roller coaster. Got her connected with Defy and they put her on shots. What a difference! We don't -dare- miss our shots now!

Can't hurt to get your PCP to order labs and see where she sits on the hormone meters (her doc should be doing this anyway, IMHO).
Even when my wife and I were connecting,(me in my 40's, she in her 50's) it was once a week...maybe. We met when she was 47 and I was 42.

Last year, my urologist graciously offered to order labs for her, though she wasn't a patient. Low estrogen, low progesterone, low testosterone. He wanted to treat her if she became a patient. She didn't want to do it because he's an hour away. ??? I'm driving! He also wanted to treat her because of the possibility that it might slow down her dementia. We'll never know if any good would have come out of it. Now, her dementia and diabetes are both getting worse.
 
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MIP1950

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What level of TRT does your wife take? I am curious because you rarely hear about women on it (unless they are trans).
My wife is in her mid 50’s and tolerates sex but rarely initiates it.
You mention that you both take PDE-5 inhibitors, I had to look that up to find out it’s just Viagra, Cialis, etc. how does that help a woman? They’ve been talking about “female viagra” forever and I thought that was because regular viagra doesn’t work on women. Or does it?
My urologist implants pellets in women.
 

MIP1950

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This is a good discussion, I’m glad to see I’m not alone. I think there is some difference also if a woman has had a hysterectomy with ovary removal vs. still having her ovaries. We are both in our mid 50s and my wife went through a hysterectomy early due to endometriosis. Without her ovaries, her desire for sex plummeted. We talked about it and she knows it. At the time I didn’t realize the impact this surgery would have on her overall. The whole past scare of women's HRT kept her from pursuing any of that. We are close to having sex once a month but it varies and it’s usually me initiating. Vaginal dryness has been an issue and so we just always use lube which seems to have helped. Since a woman’s testosterone comes from her ovaries and adrenal glands (I think), I have often wondered how she would do with a very small injection of testosterone once a week.
Or a compounded cream applied in the vagina.
 

Systemlord

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He wanted to treat her if she became a patient. She didn't want to do it because he's an hour away. ??? I'm driving! He also wanted to treat her because of the possibility that it might slow down her dementia. We'll never know if any good would have come out of it. Now, her dementia and diabetes are both getting worse.
Your wife has given up on life, an hour away could save, prolong her life. Wow!

My dad is 88, has type 2 diabetes out of control on some days and low-T, refuses to listen about TRT because he's too trusting of doctors and now had poor blood flow in leg and had two toes amputated as a result.

My dad's reasoning about refusing TRT, his doctor would have mentioned it if he thought it was necessary and why listen to his son who isn't a doctor.
 

MIP1950

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Your wife has given up on life, an hour away could save, prolong her life. Wow!

My dad is 88, has type 2 diabetes out of control on some days and low-T, refuses to listen about TRT because he's too trusting of doctors and now had poor blood flow in leg and had two toes amputated as a result.

My dad's reasoning about refusing TRT, his doctor would have mentioned it if he thought it was necessary and why listen to his son who isn't a doctor.
Yes. Sorry about your father. He's as stubborn as my wife. She also totally trusts her primary who must have graduated last in medical school. But she's always been that way; places doctors on pedestals and accepts whatever they say.
 

FangFang

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This is a good discussion, I’m glad to see I’m not alone. I think there is some difference also if a woman has had a hysterectomy with ovary removal vs. still having her ovaries. We are both in our mid 50s and my wife went through a hysterectomy early due to endometriosis. Without her ovaries, her desire for sex plummeted. We talked about it and she knows it. At the time I didn’t realize the impact this surgery would have on her overall. The whole past scare of women's HRT kept her from pursuing any of that. We are close to having sex once a month but it varies and it’s usually me initiating. Vaginal dryness has been an issue and so we just always use lube which seems to have helped. Since a woman’s testosterone comes from her ovaries and adrenal glands (I think), I have often wondered how she would do with a very small injection of testosterone once a week.
Topical estrogen cream. Turns the lady garden into a volcano. Thank me later. Very affordable on Amazon pharmacy and Cost Plus.
 

ERO

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It is not a given that this will happen for most men who go on TRT. In fact, I have a few friends IRL who have tried TRT, as well as myself, and once getting past the honeymoon phase none of us have had much of an improvement in these areas. A couple even quit TRT entirely because they said it just wasn't worth the hassle.
Agreed. TRT has done ZERO to restore my libido.
 

Willyt

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Agreed. TRT has done ZERO to restore my libido.
No question this has been the most frustrating part of TRT for me, probably because of the unrealistic expectations created by the Low T marketing machine.

There are many posts on this forum about low libido while on TRT, but its hard to tell how common the problem because those doing well on TRT are less likely to actively post here.
 

Anonymon

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Girl I know on E2 replacement after menopause usually get horny again. Being able to keep the same partner forever and enjoy it also requires a level of emotional maturity not all women have.
 

Seth

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Could it be a cruel irony for men over 50, that TRT restores a certain "joie de vivre" and sexual interest not experienced since their teen years, while their wives are going through the "silent passage"? Ultimately, there is little to no sex.

I read a study on sex over 50 and the results were something like:
2-3 times per week - 15%
2-3 times per month - 20%
4-5 times per year - 32%
2-3 times per year OR can't remember last time - 33%

Hypothetically speaking.
This was widely known decades ago. The longer the marriage, the less sex. Notable milestones were after kids, after menopause or a hysterectomy. Many older women said they were no longer interested in sex and felt their husbands should just accept it. Probably a reason why so many men in this situation would look for release elsewhere. Later, feminists began pushing the idea that the reason for women's lack of interest, wasn't due to biology, but due to men not doing enough to maintain her interest. If you google this scenario, you will find countless articles on this, along with ones telling women (that have lost interest) to do this, that or the other, to bring it back, along with saying that if a woman isn't interested, there must be something wrong with her. What they always fail to acknowledge is that a lot of women just lose interest and are fine with that. When Viagra became popular, there were countless statements from women complaining about it, as they didn't want their husbands "pestering" them for sex. So, if a man wants a healthy sex life, and perhaps uses testosterone, etc., to support this, what is he supposed to do if his mate wants nothing to do with it?
 
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