33 year old male low T

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Farmer

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Hey.
Just joined this forum to see if i could get some good ideas,
im 33 year old im self employed and have always been a lovning to work a lot and always thinking of my next project.
Around 2 years ago i was in an accident which left me in the hospital for 1 Md. and unable to work for another 2 Md. after that, needless to say there was a lot of stress involved with that and next 4-5 Md. wasn't much fun i was feeling bummed out no energy out of shape both mental and physically, i was seeing a counselor and the doc had me on antidepressants, i started to read up on low T and asked my doc about it he said no your are depressed, i went on to a psych and i asked him about the low t he said i should get it tested. I got my doc talked into it and sure it was 171 he put me on a tablet that i had to but under my tung every morning, so i did for 30 days, got tested again and the doc was being stupid couldn't get the lab test out of him and what not, now spring had arrived so i pushed on with work and got true the summer just fine i thought. In october we got a new doc and she had been working at a male enhancement clinic so i went to her, she found labs from earlier and after the 30 days on the tablet i went down to 151, she put me on 80 mg pr week injections it seemed to help got tested every 3 md and the best was the second test at 450 winter went great and back to it at spring time, she upped my dose another 2 times so i ended up at 120 mg pr week, then i got tested again in dec last year and i was 206 the test pryer to that i was 215.
Then in january this year we lost a family member on my wife's side her mother, so i had to be strongof cause however it went the other way it was like someone pulled a hat down over my eyes felt like shit, so i went to doc and she took my dose up to 160 mg pr week in one shot, and said i should think about getting on a antidepressant, i told her no and that i was pretty sure my levels dunked and that we neede to figure something out, 2weeks in on the 160 mg not much for a change, no self esteem no energy no drive all, i just wanna be happy but i cant, im 95 % sure this would have something to do with my low T being it never came up to normal,
sorry for the long report, just wanna get this fixed so i can get back to normal i could function on the 200 number but i think it would be so much better if i could get the number more up,
im a big guy always have been heavy build used to work out in my younger days and right now both wife and I are on a high protein diet i have lost 18 lbs so fare.
what do you guys think whats to expect when the numbers come back up and what are we doing wrong being i have been on it for over a year and only ones tested at the 450 all other times around 200.
thanks.
 
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Farmer,

You need a full set of current labs done, then call Defy Medical for a consultation. Quit chasing your tail, and get help from TRT professionals that know what they are doing. It will be the best call you ever made.
 
Ok thanks.
Im thinking of splitting my dose this op coming week, last week it seemed like i did really good on the 2-3 day and then it tapered of and the kinda crashed over the last 2 days anyone seen a benefit from splitting there dose?
also doc want me to start on HCG 1000 ones pr week that seems high of what i have read on her??
how ever she is having a hard time locating the HCG our local pharmacy cant get it.
She started me on 0.5 mg arimex 3 times pr week i been on that for around a week now wonder if that could be the wrong dose and effecting my fatige and overall well being?
 
She started me on 0.5 mg arimex 3 times pr week i been on that for around a week now wonder if that could be the wrong dose and effecting my fatige and overall well being?

What is your doctor basing this enormous AI dosage on? Do you have symptoms of of high E2? What was your sensitive E2 level on your last blood test?

Of course it could be affecting your fatigue and overall well being. If your E2 is tanked, you will feel like crap.
 
0.5 mg X 3 seems like a HIGH dose. Need your E2 SENSITIVE labs numbers to see where you were at that made her dose you that high.
Jackie is right about Defy.
Might also run a complete thyroid and full iron panel also.
 
Really don't know what she based that on, i don't have the last lab work, whats the symptoms of high E2?
she told me that i should do both arimex and the 1000 of HCG whenever we get the HCG lined up.

whats your thoughts on splitting the injection to 0,4 ml x 2 instead of 0,8 in one shot

thank you
 
Really don't know what she based that on, i don't have the last lab work, whats the symptoms of high E2?
she told me that i should do both arimex and the 1000 of HCG whenever we get the HCG lined up.

whats your thoughts on splitting the injection to 0,4 ml x 2 instead of 0,8 in one shot

thank you

Most of us have found that smaller, more frequent injections are more effective. But, you really need to get a handle on that AI dose. What was your E2? Was it measured via the sensitive assay? Post your most recent labs, testosterone panel, estradiol, thyroid panel, shbg and you will generate significant response.
 
Ill see if i cant get a hold of that on monday i dont have the test pretty much just went by the T level she told me of the labs i guess,.

im just gonna quit that Arimex, been on it for a week so im gonna leave it on the shelf for now.
i just looked up side effects of high/low E2 seems like i can check of some for both high and low levels.
 
Ill see if i cant get a hold of that on monday i dont have the test pretty much just went by the T level she told me of the labs i guess,.

im just gonna quit that Arimex, been on it for a week so im gonna leave it on the shelf for now.
i just looked up side effects of high/low E2 seems like i can check of some for both high and low levels.


I would urge you to consult with another doctor, at least for a second opinion. What your have told us raises more questions than you have answers for. Frankly, you're protocol is not well designed.
 
Going to the doc today any, I want labs done again. What sould I ask for to get tested???? I wanna get it all done.

Farmer,

When you get these labs done, keep a full copy for your records. I would highly advise that you call Defy Medical for a consult when you get the lab results.

No disrespect intended, but if your present doctor didn't explain to you the reason you're taking such a large dose of Arimidex, that raises serious questions. This is your health we're talking about here, and you deserve competent medical care from professionals that understand TRT, not some doctor that's doing it as a side business.
 
Regarding the arimidex she said it would help on nipple sensitivity which I had alittle big of at some point last summer but not much, I did have a good talk with her yesterday and I requested all the labs I could find including iron levels and vitamins, E2, free T and total T and such. Waiting to get the results end of this week, we did finally find a compound pharmacy who could do the hcg and I sould have that in hand in a day or 2 she ordered 500 twice a week, I won't start on that before we get the labs back, I was tested on the 4 day after my last injection I take an injection every Monday and Thursday, 0,4 ml . She did tell me alittle more about her back ground and she used to work at a men's health and testosterone replacement center.
 
She did tell me alittle more about her back ground and she used to work at a men's health and testosterone replacement center.

Where most patients are simply charged significant sums of money and handed a "one-size-fits-all" protocol. She doesn't really grasp the finer points of androgen replacement. As a result of that, you're not being well directed.
 
Isn't that what defy is to? A male health and hormone replacement clinic?
Also is the SHBG something you get tested on a tragical blood draw test?
 
Isn't that what defy is to? A male health and hormone replacement clinic?
Also is the SHBG something you get tested on a tragical blood draw test?

Sadly, many hormone clinics are high volume mills where protocols are only slightly modified to reflect the needs of individual patients. Your interactions with this doctor have left you with more questions than answers. I don't know what "a tragical blood draw test" is.
 
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SHBG should be measured before and during hormone replacement therapy. That doesn't mean it will be.

We have to be our own advocates.
 
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