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    Carnivore Diet-Dr. Baker Blood Test

    This is an interesting review of his blood levels, but his testosterone is especially interesting. He is athletic and very muscular, yet his TT is 237 and FT 5.5. Not sure of the ranges, but they are low no matter. He posits that his androgen receptors are sensitive, so the low lab value is not clinically significant.



    https://robbwolf.com/2018/03/13/epis...rs-blood-work/
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    I wonder what's causing his testosterone levels to be so low, when my levels are that low I get Ed and cannot gain any muscle or strength.
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    It's disappointing that the blood work they are going over has no "before" comparison data. That invalidates everything they are discussing, frankly. He could be 30% worse across the board and they would have no idea. Best case this is useless information, and worst case these people are being deliberately deceptive (i.e. liars).

    I do agree 100% that everyone needs to know what is going on in his or her own body. The blanket advice "everyone should eat paleo/low-carb/low-fat/animals only/plants only" is always too simplistic. If this guy found a regimen that is working for him, great.

    Edit -- In particular the APO E3 or APO E4 genetic variant have very different responses to even medium-fat diets. It's probable that this doc's genetic variant matches with his diet choice, whereas for others (probably like me) with APO E4 it would be a health disaster.

    Couple of other points: it is great to be tuned in to your lipid profile, but these are only part of the risk story. If you want to know what's going on with your cardio health you need to actually go and look: like with a heart scan or a carotid artery scan. Also knowing your own genetic risk for everything from diabetes to dementia to kidney stones to cancer should inform your decisions. I realize I'm preaching to the choir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    I wonder what's causing his testosterone levels to be so low, when my levels are that low I get Ed and cannot gain any muscle or strength.
    Could be because he is 51. He said he wakes up every morning with an erection, so ED isn't a problem. I think this shows that people need to chase how they feel instead of numbers on a test. Everyone is different.

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    I'm glad you posted this. I wish more people would take a look at this guy and help me understand what might be going on. For those that don't know who he is he is an absolute specimen. Giant 51 year old guy with low body fat and weighs in around 240 I think. Has set all kinds of indoor rowing records. Can deadlift over 500lbs. Eats only meat literally nothing else and his T is super low by our communities standards. He argues (or theorizes) it's because his receptors are sensitive as you point out. It's also interesting that his fasting glucose levels are high at 126. This is on a strict zero carb diet for 15 months. I know this is just N=1 but me thinks there is more going on than we really understand. Would love to see results from others on a mostly meat only diet (like that of some of our ancestors).

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    I don't know how labs work but this could be like running female labs on a male and as we know they are not accurate. You have someone doing extreme things that are way off from the general population and it would be reasonable think that the labs may not be accurate.

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