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I am going on 55 days without HCG. I've had some interesting changes. Libido has improved, as well as erection quality. I am by no means the horny person I used to be, but overall my sex drive is probably 20% higher, which is amazing. It was really high for like a week, but as it usually does...

did you ever get your bloodwork back?

Have you gotten your bloodwork since you stopped the HCG? just reread your comment higher up that you are waiting on bloodwork, so nvm. lol hows your libido been on no HCG?

Old Protocol: 16mg test C ED 125IU HCG sun and wed Last Labs: total t: 900 Free t: 252 (52-280) SHBG: 19.4 (16-55) Sensitive e2: 31.5 (8-35) New protocol: 16mg Test C ED I've been on TRT for about 4 years now from age 26 to 30, and during that time I have tried numerous protocols. There have...

yea you will literally never see the results you want if you continuously change things. just the nature of the game

why were you changing the dose of the HCG so much?

Whats your overall protocol? how long did you drop it for? did you get bloodwork while on and then while off?

Yea I am a hyper responder. I was only taking 125iu 2x a week. Anything more and my e2 would go nuts. Had some awful weeks before finding that out lol how long have you been on TRT and how long have you been off of HCG?

Only two things, while the scale has only moved 1 or 2 lbs depending on the day, I feel much less bloated and watery. Also testicles are actually hanging lower more of the time as opposed to being high like they were a lot of the time while using HCG. Still too early to really tell anything though.

Interested to see these results. 6 days off of HCG at the moment after having it in my protocol since the beginning years ago. Interested to see what happens.

Awesome. Im on 16mg Test C a day, no AI as well. Interested to see what dropping HCG feels like as I have never been without it. I know I am a hyper responder since the normal doses people take here sent my e2 spiraling upwards of 70 on the sensitive test and gave me some of the most intense...

did you have solid libido and energy before TRT?

In a similar boat as you, except fatigue and libido have never really been good on TRT. Had my last shot of HCG on sunday, going to see how I feel without it for the next two months. It's been in my protocol since the very beginning almost three years ago. One question, are you using an AI now...

Haha thanks man. Wish I could say that was always the case, but alas I had to learn the hard way.

I use 27g 1/2in insulin syringes so going from 116 to 108 is easy to measure out. I've done big changes before and it never worked out well so I prefer the slow and steady route these days. Also I know it takes a long time to truly see changes. Just posting an update with thoughts to have people...

Im not the only one here who feels this way when changing the dose, and I don't change multiple things at once to avoid confounding factors. As for some of it being in my head, I won't argue that could be true, but it doesn't account for all of it. Without fail, over the last two years every...

Plenty of people here have figured out how to get their e2 in a good spot, whether it be lower doses or daily injections. I don't have a problem dealing with emotions from e2. Its the other aspects of high e2 that I do not want to deal with if I do not have to.

Well my e2 wasn't super elevated, and I preferred to go down slowly to minimize the chance of swinging past the best dose for me. If this still leaves me elevated and with symptoms present I will decrease to 100mg a week.

Last Post: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?15508-Lower-dose-or-daily-injections Went from 116mg to 108mg in an effort to lower estradiol as I was experiencing symptoms. So far it has been fairly similar to every other time I have changed my dose, in that I feel almost like I am...

I agree, but I was referring to Vince saying it can take 12 weeks to notice changes. Right now my e2 is almost 50 at trough. The goal is to get it closer to 30 and then see if for me, subjectively, do I feel better symptom wise at a lower e2? I honestly could give a shit if my e2 was 50 and I...

Went ahead and stuck with 108mg. Will update when I have labs, and yes I do realize it can take a very long time to see subjective benefits. At 5 weeks I am just looking to have my e2 numbers looking better, and then Ill sit at that dosage until I feel some benefits. I learned early on that...

Not at a point to drop 100$ on that. I moved states so found a new hormone doc. As with almost all it’s not cheap when starting up. I’m younger so it’s really my only option, and they are up to date on protocols and such.

Yea when I first started trt I made big jumps and ended up having to work backwards because of my impatience. So now I’m a fan of tiny tweaks, so I think I’ll go with the 108. If e2 is still high in 5 weeks I’ll drop to 100. Just sucks because I know I’m about to have like 1-2 weeks for feeling...

Last SHBG: 33 (11 - 80 nmol/L)

Ive had a complete thyroid panel with the above labs listed done twice with no abnormalities. Numbers in a good optimized place. I think I agree that I need to lower my dose. What should I drop down to? I am changing the protocol today, and will be doing lab work 5 weeks from now. I was gonna...

Current protocol: 116mg a week(split into 2 doses e3.5days) HCG: 115 IU twice a week(I know its low, anything higher makes my estrogen go bonkers) Last labs: Total test: 979 High ng/dL 264 - 916 Free Test: 32.4 High pg/mL 9.3 - 26.5 E2: 49.9 High pg/mL 8.0 - 35.0 Labs were taken at trough on...