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Hello folks,

Came across this forum in my new quest - get my wife pregnant.

I've been on self-prescribed TRT (UGL product with semi consistent bloodwork analysis) for around 7-8 years. A few blasts over the years in there earlier era, but just sitting in physiological numbers for the last 5 years, with occasional Anavar usage at a low dose.

I am 36. The wife and I have recently started to discuss having little ones, and aligning for our family planning, so I decided to go get a sperm analysis done. We all know what the result is; we knew what it would be going into it.

I've never used HCG.

Now, I've heard of folks using HCG monotherapy over a longer term to get slowly turned back on. I've heard HCG + HMG is the gold standard for becoming fertile as a mofo. Entirely new to this. Plan to start a thread documenting this. I've got Michael Scally's Power PCT, and if monotherapy doesn't yield anything helpful.... we'll, I'll look at coming off entirely within the year.

Appreciate all the knowledge flowing around these parts, and look forward to learning more, contributing etc. Open to virtually any advice.
 
outlawed89 said:
Hello folks,

Came across this forum in my new quest - get my wife pregnant.

I've been on self-prescribed TRT (UGL product with semi consistent bloodwork analysis) for around 7-8 years. A few blasts over the years in there earlier era, but just sitting in physiological numbers for the last 5 years, with occasional Anavar usage at a low dose.

I am 36. The wife and I have recently started to discuss having little ones, and aligning for our family planning, so I decided to go get a sperm analysis done. We all know what the result is; we knew what it would be going into it.

I've never used HCG.

Now, I've heard of folks using HCG monotherapy over a longer term to get slowly turned back on. I've heard HCG + HMG is the gold standard for becoming fertile as a mofo. Entirely new to this. Plan to start a thread documenting this. I've got Michael Scally's Power PCT, and if monotherapy doesn't yield anything helpful.... we'll, I'll look at coming off entirely within the year.

Appreciate all the knowledge flowing around these parts, and look forward to learning more, contributing etc. Open to virtually any advice.
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madman

Post in thread 'ASIH & Regaining Fertility'

enrod said:
Hello all!

Long time competitor in BB and currently trying to conceive. I’m doing self-administered therapy, post self administered years of ped use leading to what I believe is secondary hypogonadism (was fertile before use). This therapy consists of:
1500iu HCG MWF
50iu HMG TTHSa
50iu rFSH TTHSa
25mg Enclomiphene ED

I had an SA done about 6-8 weeks ago, and it came back with signs of oligospermia (<9M motile). I recently had blood test results back on my hormone panel - without surprise my test is in the gutter and my estrogen was through the roof...
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madman

Post in thread 'I’ve gave in and started a cycle after lots of TRT frustration. Can I PCT off altogether or back on TRT'

Spartan1985 said:
So after a long frustrating process with TRT and managing side affects with little benefits I found a kind of tolerable middle ground after some kind advice from members on here. Was doing 10mg test prop subQ daily with 250iu hcg. This made the side effects of worsening ED issues etc a little more manageable, felt a little more emotionally stable. Libido woke up but very minimal. Did seem to put a fair amount of weight on round the mid section and training recovery went to almost nothing as hit a kind of burnout feeling ( I was training very intensely so not sure this is linked) anyway...
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Thread 'Optimal Restoration of Spermatogenesis Following Testosterone Therapy Using HCG and FSH'

* We performed a retrospective cohort study and identified 288 patients prescribed injections of 3000 IU HCG three times a week (TIW) and 75 IU FSH TIW from January 2020-March 2024 (we termed this therapy “reboot”).

* Our final cohort included 77 patients meeting these strict criteria, 50 of whom were not on concurrent testosterone replacement therapy during reboot (No TRT), and 27 of whom were (Concurrent TRT).

*Concurrent TRT during HCG/FSH reboot did not dampen spermatogenic recovery: 2.2 M/mL to 16.8 M/mL in the No...
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madman

Thread 'Fertility maintenance or restoration in men before, during, and after TRT or AAS'

Fertility Preservation in Hypogonadal Men (2018)
Robert J. Carrasquillo and Ranjith Ramasamy


Introduction

Testicular failure is defined as the impairment or loss of both the endocrine functions of the testis (production of testosterone, or T) and exocrine function (production of spermatozoa). Testicular failure can result from the pathology of the testis itself or disorder at any point in the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. Primary testicular failure is characterized by normal/low T in the presence of the elevated follicle-stimulating hormone...
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madman

Thread 'Endocrine therapy to restore endogenous T levels and alleviate ASIH symptoms in AAS dependent men'

www.sciencedirect.com

Clomiphene citrate and optional human chorionic gonadotropin for treating male hypogonadism arising from long-term anabolic-androgenic steroid use—A pilot study

Long-term anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) use poses several health risks, including secondary hypogonadism. There is a knowledge gap on treatment ta…
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ABSTRACT

Introduction

Long-term anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) use poses several health risks, including secondary hypogonadism. There is a knowledge gap on treatment targeting the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis among men with anabolic steroid-induced hypogonadism (ASIH). This study aims to gain insights into the potential utility of endocrine therapy to restore endogenous testosterone levels and alleviate ASIH symptoms in AAS dependent men.


Methods

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madman

Thread 'Testosterone & Fertility: Novel Techniques in Monitoring & Treating Hypogonadal Fertile Men: SERMs, hCG, rFSH, Aromatase Inhibitors'

Nelson's Excel kicking facts here!

Dr. Bernie dropping gems!

Something everyone needs to keep in mind here!

* There are very few large RCTs comparing theses strategies in the fertility-seeking hypogonadal male!




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Vince said:
My son-in-law just used clomid to get his wife pregnant. He's 46. He had no issues using clomid.
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Say more. What dosages etc. I'm literally firing blanks as we speak, and likely have been for years, though my balls are quite decently sized, and have never shrank.
 
outlawed89 said:
Say more. What dosages etc. I'm literally firing blanks as we speak, and likely have been for years, though my balls are quite decently sized, and have never shrank.
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He took 50 mg daily for 2 weeks and one week off. He repeated this till his wife became pregnant for the seventh time. I think this time they're finally done with having babies.
 

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