new labs update

Weasel · May 20, 2016

Testosterone, Serum 1158 ng/dL 348 - 1197 01
Comment:
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Free Testosterone(Direct) 28.3 High pg/mL 8.7 - 25.1

Estradiol, Sensitive 49.0 High pg/mL 8.0 - 35.0

Defy has now started an AI at .25mg/200mg DIM on shot days to try and lower E2 just a bump.

Thoughts?

Vince · May 20, 2016

You need to clean up your post. Your numbers look pretty good, do you feel you need an AI. How are you feeling.

Weasel · May 20, 2016

Vince said:
You need to clean up your post. Your numbers look pretty good, do you feel you need an AI. How are you feeling.

Sorry Vince, I was in the process and had to take a phone call.

I feel better, sleep has been better since Dr. Saya introduced DHEA/pregnenolone to me. I do feel bloated and brain fog still persists. My thought process just isnt where I believe I should be at.

Vince · May 20, 2016

I'm surprised about the brain fog, you can try the AI. Hopefully that will help. Personally I do like your numbers as they are.

Weasel · May 20, 2016

Vince said:
I'm surprised about the brain fog, you can try the AI. Hopefully that will help. Personally I do like your numbers as they are.

I thought thise numbers looked pretty good as well, The nurse said she would like to see about a 20 point drop in e2.

Libido and ability are great right now though and hope the addition of an AI doesnt change that.

Vince · May 20, 2016

Weasel said:
I thought thise numbers looked pretty good as well, The nurse said she would like to see about a 20 point drop in e2.

Libido and ability are great right now though and hope the addition of an AI doesnt change that.

If the AI takes away your libido and ability. I would definitely stop taking it, but I'm sure you already know that.

Weasel · May 20, 2016

Vince said:
If the AI takes away your libido and ability. I would definitely stop taking it, but I'm sure you already know that.

Yep, if any negatives show up, ill stop immediately. I just going to do as Defy says. They haven't steered me wrong yet.

Weasel · May 23, 2016

Well after only me 2nd dose of AI, I feel like this is not a good thing. Ability and libido both seem to be down already.

Vince · May 23, 2016

You were having symptoms of high E2, but how having symptoms of low estrogen. I'm sure Defy will tell you to reduce your AI, can you cut it in half. But of course I'm not your doctor.

Weasel · May 23, 2016

Vince said:
You were having symptoms of high E2, but how having symptoms of low estrogen. I'm sure Defy will tell you to reduce your AI, can you cut it in half. But of course I'm not your doctor.

I just felt bloated and still had brain fog. Brain fog is now worse and sleep was terrible last night.

CoastWatcher · May 23, 2016

Weasel, how often are you injecting?

Weasel · May 23, 2016

CoastWatcher said:
Weasel, how often are you injecting?

70mg 2x per week. Hcg mwf 400iu

CoastWatcher · May 23, 2016

Weasel said:
70mg 2x per week. Hcg mwf 400iu

When I was injecting 60mg/3.5 days my estradiol went to 55. I didn't want to add an AI to the mix, one more variable to keep track of, unless I had to. I went to even more frequent injections (settling on the radical 16mg/daily schedule). E2 dropped to 29.5. I am NOT suggesting you need to jump on the daily injection bandwagon, but have you discussed EOD dosing with Defy?

Weasel · May 24, 2016

CoastWatcher said:
When I was injecting 60mg/3.5 days my estradiol went to 55. I didn't want to add an AI to the mix, one more variable to keep track of, unless I had to. I went to even more frequent injections (settling on the radical 16mg/daily schedule). E2 dropped to 29.5. I am NOT suggesting you need to jump on the daily injection bandwagon, but have you discussed EOD dosing with Defy?

Wow! That's awesome, I didn't realize you could see that kind of reduction in E2 with ED or EOD dosing.

I certainly will discuss this with them.

CoastWatcher · May 24, 2016

Weasel said:
Wow! That's awesome, I didn't realize you could see that kind of reduction in E2 with ED or EOD dosing.

I certainly will discuss this with them.

I'm glad you will pursue it. It has the potential to be a big win - lower E2 levels/steady testosterone levels. The downside is more frequent injections, but after 11 months of daily injections I can say that whatever hassle factor there might be (in my case, minimal), it is worth it to feel remarkably well. More frequent injections, this is certainly true of daily shots, often means less total testosterone is needed to achieve the goals you want to hit.

Weasel · May 26, 2016

CoastWatcher said:
I'm glad you will pursue it. It has the potential to be a big win - lower E2 levels/steady testosterone levels. The downside is more frequent injections, but after 11 months of daily injections I can say that whatever hassle factor there might be (in my case, minimal), it is worth it to feel remarkably well. More frequent injections, this is certainly true of daily shots, often means less total testosterone is needed to achieve the goals you want to hit.

With daily injections are you injecting subq or IM?