Lab results seem way too high

ChristIsKing

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Hi all,

I started TRT ~8 weeks ago. Taking 28mg test prop every day. I know that dose is on the higher side. I just got my labs back and the numbers seem extremely high. I wonder if they are right or something got messed up. I didn't take my shot that day until after I had the blood drawn. Should I just have the blood work done again or drop down to like 20mg/day then redo them? I'm feeling pretty good and no noticable sides.

SHBG was 47.8 range 16.5-55.9 a few months ago. I didn't have that tested this time.

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Hi all,

I started TRT ~8 weeks ago. Taking 28mg test prop every day. I know that dose is on the higher side. I just got my labs back and the numbers seem extremely high. I wonder if they are right or something got messed up. I didn't take my shot that day until after I had the blood drawn. Should I just have the blood work done again or drop down to like 20mg/day then redo them? I'm feeling pretty good and no noticable sides.

SHBG was 47.8 range 16.5-55.9 a few months ago. I didn't have that tested this time.

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Yes your numbers seem too high. How long after your injection did you have your Labs? Do you use HCG?

I actually think 20 mg would be too high and I would wait at least 12 weeks after changing your protocol to her labs.
 
Test prop peaks very high it's not surprising really
Not saying it's super accurate but on cycle planner test prop at 28mg a day peaks almost as high as 150mg of test e twice week
So 200mg of test prop a week peaks as much as 300mg of test e a week
 
Hi all,

I started TRT ~8 weeks ago. Taking 28mg test prop every day. I know that dose is on the higher side. I just got my labs back and the numbers seem extremely high. I wonder if they are right or something got messed up. I didn't take my shot that day until after I had the blood drawn. Should I just have the blood work done again or drop down to like 20mg/day then redo them? I'm feeling pretty good and no noticable sides.

SHBG was 47.8 range 16.5-55.9 a few months ago. I didn't have that tested this time.

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You are injecting a whopping daily dose of TP for TTh!

100 mg TP = 83 mg active T (minus ester)

100 mg TC = 70 mg active T (minus ester)

28 mg TP daily (196 mg/week) would be 162.68 mg active T (minus ester) week.

196 mg TP/week would be the equivalent of injecting roughly a whopping 232 mg TC/week which is overkill here!

Most men on TTh are injecting 100-200 mg T/week whether once weekly or split into more frequent injections as in twice-weekly (every 3.5 days(, M/W/F, EOD or daily.

The majority of men can easily achieve a healthy/high trough FT injecting 100-150 mg T/week especially when split into more frequent injections.

Some men will achieve stellar levels injecting <100 mg T/week especially when split into more frequent injections.

Yes there will always be those outliers who will need the higher-end dose 200 mg T/week but its far from common as in rare!

Such dose would have the majority overmedicated on T!

You are injecting 196 mg TP/week split daily which again would be the equivalent of injecting a whopping 232 mg TC/week which is over the higher-end therapeutic dose a dose that the majority would never need to achieve a healthy let alone high trough FT.

TP is a different animal here as it is much shorter-acting due to the PK which will have a big impact on the daily peak--->trough level achieved as the peak can be 40-50% higher!

Standard starting dose for men injecting TC/TE is 100 mg T/week or 50 mg T split twice-weekly.

Some may even choose to start out lower.

Always start low and go slow we say!

There will always be time to increase your dose further if need be.

Much harder coming down than going up!

When using TP a sensible starting dose would be 12 mg daily (84 mg/week) which would be roughly the same as injecting 100 mg TC/week.

Yes you could bump it up a little higher but even then it is always best to start low and go slow as you want to see how your body reacts to testosterone and where said protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) will have your trough TT and more importantly FT, estradiol and critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit.

Due to the PK you will reach steady-state much quicker than TC/TE.

Once you have achieved steady-state blood work will be done.

We always want to test at the true trough (lowest point) before your next injection which would be 24 hrs post-injection when using TP.

Yes you can always test your peak too!

Looking over your results even with a high-end SHBG highly doubtful you are hitting an absolutely ridiculous trough TT 2667 ng/dL and more importantly a ridiculous trough FT 77.4 ng/dL as if this was the case then your peak TT and more importantly FT would be insane as again there can be a 40-50%n difference in the peak--->trough!

Top it off that it would be rare not to be experiencing any sides running an absurdly high trough TT and more importantly FT.

You did use the most accurate assays for TT (LC/MS-MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis) so chances are the results would be good to go.

If such is the case then I would say your TP is dosed higher than you think if you are f**king with UGL!
 
Test prop peaks very high it's not surprising really
Not saying it's super accurate but on cycle planner test prop at 28mg a day peaks almost as high as 150mg of test e twice week
So 200mg of test prop a week peaks as much as 300mg of test e a week

Post #1

I started TRT ~8 weeks ago. Taking 28mg test prop every day. I know that dose is on the higher side. I just got my labs back and the numbers seem extremely high. I wonder if they are right or something got messed up. I didn't take my shot that day until after I had the blood drawn. Should I just have the blood work done again or drop down to like 20mg/day then redo them? I'm feeling pretty good and no noticable sides.


Post #3

Thanks, no HCG just test prop and low dose nandrolone (once a week at half of weekly test mg). Labs were 25 hours after last injection.



He never even tested at peak as his blood work was done 25 hrs post-dose!
 

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