T and Winstrol.

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Pros: More effective fat loss and some small lean mass gain.

Cons: Elevation in liver enzymes and hematocrit, and decrease in HDL cholesterol (good cholesterol). Illegal for human use in the US.
 
It is also illegal in the UK and Canada. Canadian Customs and Border Protection have targeted Asian importers and those who order it.

Is this something you are seriously considering?
 
Tell your "friend" to check out, tren.... None of the afore mentioned liver problems. And libido gos thru the roof..... or so ive been told.....
 
Tren is MUCH more dangerous than Winstrol. So make sure your "friend" knows there is a huge difference and Tren is by no means safer. @Vision make sure before you recommend something like that you know what you are doing, Tren is pretty much the most dangerous steroid you can take :)
 
Guys, I'm going to close this thread! It's going from Winstrol to Tren, and it's just clearly not heading in a productive direction.

To confirm what Nelson said, Winstrol is tough on the liver! Actually, it will beat the crap out of a liver! No physician can/will prescribe it, so it really doesn't offer any value when talking about it in conjunction with TRT. There's an active thread on Nandrolone, which at least for the right medical condition can offer some benefit.
 
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A form of estrogen produced from testosterone. Important for bone health, mood, and libido. Too high can cause side effects; too low can affect well-being.

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