Anyone have sleep issues while on Creams/gels?

Novaman · Dec 19, 2020

I was on injectables for almost 5 years and finally gave it up 14 months ago due to poor sleep that I could never correct. Since going off TRT my sleep has normalized, but I do miss the benefits I had while on TRT. Has anyone had any sleep issues while on creams/gels? I was thinking maybe this could make a difference.

S1W · Dec 19, 2020

I have - particularly when applying cream AM and PM.

Have you tried low dose (10-14mg) daily injections?

I’ve had less than ideal sleep on all protocols (wasn’t the best sleeper before TRT either) but slept better on low dose daily compared to other protocols.

goolapsh · Dec 19, 2020

Novaman said:
I was on injectables for almost 5 years and finally gave it up 14 months ago due to poor sleep that I could never correct. Since going off TRT my sleep has normalized, but I do miss the benefits I had while on TRT. Has anyone had any sleep issues while on creams/gels? I was thinking maybe this could make a difference.

I slept fine on daily injections. When I was on cream I couldn’t sleep if I applied the second dose later in the day.

Novaman · Dec 19, 2020

S1W said:
I have - particularly when applying cream AM and PM.

Have you tried low dose (10-14mg) daily injections?

I’ve had less than ideal sleep on all protocols (wasn’t the best sleeper before TRT either) but slept better on low dose daily compared to other protocols.

I tried low dose protocols at the very end, but never daily injections. It's possible by then my body was just messed up and nothing was going to work. I could consider starting up with that and see how I do, but don't know if I want to go there.

goolapsh · Dec 19, 2020

Novaman said:
I tried low dose protocols at the very end, but never daily injections. It's possible by then my body was just messed up and nothing was going to work. I could consider starting up with that and see how I do, but don't know if I want to go there.

Was coming off t after five years difficult for you? Is that why you’re hesistant to restart? I’m kind of in the same boat that’s why I’m asking.

trtthings · Dec 19, 2020

Novaman said:
I was on injectables for almost 5 years and finally gave it up 14 months ago due to poor sleep that I could never correct. Since going off TRT my sleep has normalized, but I do miss the benefits I had while on TRT. Has anyone had any sleep issues while on creams/gels? I was thinking maybe this could make a difference.

What are your sleep issues? Was there also fatigue/some other symptoms?

Novaman · Dec 20, 2020

trtthings said:
What are your sleep issues? Was there also fatigue/some other symptoms?

I would wake up at night and not be able to get back to sleep. At times I would also feel my heart pounding. This poor sleep made me very fatigued.
All of this went away almost immediately once I stopped TRT.

trtthings · Dec 20, 2020

Novaman said:
I would wake up at night and not be able to get back to sleep. At times I would also feel my heart pounding. This poor sleep made me very fatigued.
All of this went away almost immediately once I stopped TRT.

And how was your protocol? Did the fatigue go away when you sorted the sleep and dropped the testosterone?

Novaman · Dec 20, 2020

trtthings said:
And how was your protocol? Did the fatigue go away when you sorted the sleep and dropped the testosterone?

I tried just about every protocol out there. My last ditch effort was low dosing.

my fatigue issues did not totally go away. I am realizing that diet also is an issue. While I do eat fairly healthy, I am finding that eating a low carb diet, really watching my sugar intake, and also intermittent fasting has an impact on my fatigue levels

trtthings · Dec 20, 2020

Novaman said:
I tried just about every protocol out there. My last ditch effort was low dosing.

my fatigue issues did not totally go away. I am realizing that diet also is an issue. While I do eat fairly healthy, I am finding that eating a low carb diet, really watching my sugar intake, and also intermittent fasting has an impact on my fatigue levels

What about your thyroid function? Is that fine?