Viagra or Cialis: Which gets you Harder?

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RickB

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i tried cialis. get plenty hard without. those pills are about the dumbest things you can take. boosting NO is incredibly stupid as well. there has been documented cases of penile amputations and blindness as s/x from taking this shit. just research it before it is too late. do not buy this guy mantra cialis is good for you BS.
I didn't take them for years because of the blindness claim. Then after not hearing anything about that for years, I wondered if it was even proven, and I could find nothing saying that it was. And I looked just now for amputation cases (which I had never heard claimed), and I don't see anything.

I don't criticize your decision though. I definitely understand the belief that nothing is worth even the slightest risk to one's eyesight or one's penis.
 
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Lumalux

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Viagra sides are terrible for me, headaches and stuffiness. I tolerate Cialis and take 5mg every day. I also take L-citrulline and Pycnogenol daily.

Viagra worked as intended, I just hated the sides. Cialis works hit and miss and decent quality when it works.

But the best (for me), hands down, with no sides is bi or tri mix shots. Crazy hard, no effort needed. No worrying if your junk will work or if you'll need a break in the middle at all. Get the dose dialed in and it works for the next couple hours and goes away afterwards. Nice quality erections too. I can usually get hard on my own but sometimes I can't stay that way. This is my back up plan of choice.

PT141 and melanotan ii (wicked tan included) work like mad for me. Bonkers long lasting spontaneous erections for two or three days. Like potentially embarrassing school class room hard ons, haha. Was a bit much though popping wood so hard it would wake me up at night thinking my wee wee may split the skin. Probably the hardest I have ever been, including as a teen. Was worried it wouldn't go away several times throughout but the erections, although long lasting (anywhere from 10 min to an hour) they would eventually come and go steady for a couple/few days.

Someone earlier mentioned their libido went through the roof on viagra (I think, too lazy to quote them, sorry). I have discovered that getting and obtaining an erection is not libido and libido is not an erection. Two different things with different treatments if needed.

I can get erect all I want as often as I want, but I can only orgasm once a day maybe, sometimes twice. Any more erection is a waste on me. What I mean to say is being hard shouldn't be confused with being horny.
How old are you? Getting these crazy random boners gets more and more fun the older you get. I am 56 and savor each and every one of them. Long gone are the days of being embarrassed by a huge bulge in my pants. I’m not a very big dude so it’s rarely obvious unless you looked right at it.
 

MDavidW76

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How old are you? Getting these crazy random boners gets more and more fun the older you get. I am 56 and savor each and every one of them. Long gone are the days of being embarrassed by a huge bulge in my pants. I’m not a very big dude so it’s rarely obvious unless you looked right at it.
Humble brag… I’m at the opposite end of the spectrum, a typical scenario for me is I can feel my non-catatonic narcolepsy kicking in and it’s like the back up brain in my pants reboots first, I’m at my cubicle with full on chub and one of the secretaries will drop by my desk… at which point I scoot my chair right in to my desk and sit up straight…
 

Lumalux

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Humble brag… I’m at the opposite end of the spectrum, a typical scenario for me is I can feel my non-catatonic narcolepsy kicking in and it’s like the back up brain in my pants reboots first, I’m at my cubicle with full on chub and one of the secretaries will drop by my desk… at which point I scoot my chair right in to my desk and sit up straight…
Opposite end of the spectrum meaning your chub is hard to hide? Lucky you.
 

Lumalux

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Humble brag… I’m at the opposite end of the spectrum, a typical scenario for me is I can feel my non-catatonic narcolepsy kicking in and it’s like the back up brain in my pants reboots first, I’m at my cubicle with full on chub and one of the secretaries will drop by my desk… at which point I scoot my chair right in to my desk and sit up straight…
Casual business attire with untucked shirts pretty much solves this problem. It's a freaking awesome problem to have.
 

azmike17

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Interesting thread, you guys!

Here is some more info that may help


Cialis is a no-go for me even at 5 mg/day. My PED5 receptors may be screwed up since I get all side effects (backache is the worst).

Viagra is OK and so is Levitra. Stendra did nothing for me.

And, yes, TRIMIX is the best. But I do not recommend to anyone to try it unless you are tired of not being able to predict your performance. Once you "bite the apple" with TRIMIX, your mind will play tricks on you.

Check the last link on item 3 on this page: Trimix Medication and Injection Instructions
Hi Nelson, the Trimix link you attached recommends starting at .05 for the initial dose, do you agree with that? I thought starting at .10 or .12 was common?
 

Techguy

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@azmike17 I just posted about this in another thread. After an online consult, it was recommended that I use a dose between 0.1 and 0.5 ml (my mix was 20-30-1, so that check that first), but since 1) I was using it for psychogenic and 2) I was concerned big time about priapism, I started at 0.05--which was perfect (2.5 hour erection, after ejaculation and jog)... Later I found advice saying start at 0.05 and increase by 0.02 until ideal dose found... I totally agree with that... but again, that is for someone with psychogenic... if you have organic ED, the starting dose will really depend, and that is why people often do an initial dose in doctors office. Takes some experimentation, but to avoid a trip to the ER for priapism... start LOW.
 

tropicaldaze1950

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I still have prejudices about the fact that any analogue of Viagra is just cheaper substitutes for all components..
India produces many of the finished products sold in the EU, Canada and the US. I also don't think India honors patents so it's possible, IMO, that the off brand is just as good as the brand. I have nothing to back it up other than a conversation I had with my former primary when I lived in Maryland. He told me that many medications are produced in India for Big Pharma companies at low price and when they get here, the price is jacked up for huge profits. I trust what comes out of India, just as China is the source for many or most of the raw materials used in pharma, including testosterone powders w/esters and base. IIRC, a 100 mg Viagra tablet is $30. WTF??? Pfizer does it because they can, just like the other pharmaceutical companies. Money hungry. Voracious.
 

shroud778

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Interested in PT 141 as an alternative to Viagra on grounds on headaches, flushing and stuffed up sinuses. Although dosing was a little confusing. It generally comes in a 10mg bottle that you can mix with bac water, but what are people using this suggesting as a sensible start dose in mg of unconstituted powder?

And is this generally suggested once per week injected with a bac water dilution. Is subcutaneous injection?
 

Techguy

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Interested in PT 141 as an alternative to Viagra on grounds on headaches, flushing and stuffed up sinuses. Although dosing was a little confusing. It generally comes in a 10mg bottle that you can mix with bac water, but what are people using this suggesting as a sensible start dose in mg of unconstituted powder?

And is this generally suggested once per week injected with a bac water dilution. Is subcutaneous injection?
The amount they tell you to use, e.g. between 0.5 and 2mg, is what you inject from the solution of powder mixed with the bac water. I suggest starting with 0.5, and working your way up to find the best dose (and one that doesn't get you too nauseous!). Also, be aware that for many guys the effect (hard spontaneous erections) may not kick in until 7 to 8 hours after injection! So inject early in the day, otherwise you'll just have rock hard nocturnal erections.
 
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SteveCleves

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I take 5mg of Cialis a day for all of the benefits. I never really have an ED issues, but if I am relatively sure I'm going to have sex, I will take 12.5mg of Viagra to really have an A+ performance.
 
I was a patient of Abraham Morgentaler’s clinic and they are ok with it. I take them at the same time. I should add that I am 68 and have done this for the past three years. I do this two to three times per week for sex only, as wife and I plan sex, a benefit of being an empty nester. Works very well and it is great to have a lifetime of knowledge of how to please my wife and the time and ability to do it.
 

Robotics

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Interesting thread, you guys!

Here is some more info that may help


Cialis is a no-go for me even at 5 mg/day. My PED5 receptors may be screwed up since I get all side effects (backache is the worst).

Viagra is OK and so is Levitra. Stendra did nothing for me.

And, yes, TRIMIX is the best. But I do not recommend to anyone to try it unless you are tired of not being able to predict your performance. Once you "bite the apple" with TRIMIX, your mind will play tricks on you.

Check the last link on item 3 on this page: Trimix Medication and Injection Instructions

I got all the cialis side effects early on too, it was hard to bear but titrated up slowly and used Advil for the first few weeks. After that I can take it without any major side effects and it was worth it.
 

Wolverine

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Has anyone had any ligament/muscle issues while taking daily cialis? I'm active (59 yrs old) and started taking daily cialis. Been taking cialis off and on for a few years but read about its health benefits and started daily about 2 months ago. Currently taking 2.5mg per day. Would like to titrate up to 5mg. In the last month I have a pulled achilles tendon and calf muscle. Never had these issues before. It could also be Im getting older and need to stretch well before sports and nothing to do with cialis. Thanks!
 

RickB

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I used to use viagra for all sexual pursuits, and it always worked. Currently my protocol is working sexually, and I'm fully functional without viagra.

Strangely, twice recently I decided to enhance the lovemaking-experience with viagra, and I could not attain full rigidity without maximum mental focus. And each time I would reach full rigidity, I would wind up at the cusp of orgasm and have to pause the act.

I accept the possibility that there could have been other factors at play, but nothing stands out. It seems like viagra worked against me.
 
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