Viagra or Cialis: Which gets you Harder?

Bbobtucker

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Viagra sides are terrible for me, headaches and stuffiness. I tolerate Cialis and take 5mg every day. I also take L-citrulline and Pycnogenol daily.

Viagra worked as intended, I just hated the sides. Cialis works hit and miss and decent quality when it works.

But the best (for me), hands down, with no sides is bi or tri mix shots. Crazy hard, no effort needed. No worrying if your junk will work or if you'll need a break in the middle at all. Get the dose dialed in and it works for the next couple hours and goes away afterwards. Nice quality erections too. I can usually get hard on my own but sometimes I can't stay that way. This is my back up plan of choice.

PT141 and melanotan ii (wicked tan included) work like mad for me. Bonkers long lasting spontaneous erections for two or three days. Like potentially embarrassing school class room hard ons, haha. Was a bit much though popping wood so hard it would wake me up at night thinking my wee wee may split the skin. Probably the hardest I have ever been, including as a teen. Was worried it wouldn't go away several times throughout but the erections, although long lasting (anywhere from 10 min to an hour) they would eventually come and go steady for a couple/few days.

Someone earlier mentioned their libido went through the roof on viagra (I think, too lazy to quote them, sorry). I have discovered that getting and obtaining an erection is not libido and libido is not an erection. Two different things with different treatments if needed.

I can get erect all I want as often as I want, but I can only orgasm once a day maybe, sometimes twice. Any more erection is a waste on me. What I mean to say is being hard shouldn't be confused with being horny.
 

Wolverine

Active Member
Viagra sides are terrible for me, headaches and stuffiness. I tolerate Cialis and take 5mg every day. I also take L-citrulline and Pycnogenol daily.

Viagra worked as intended, I just hated the sides. Cialis works hit and miss and decent quality when it works.

But the best (for me), hands down, with no sides is bi or tri mix shots. Crazy hard, no effort needed. No worrying if your junk will work or if you'll need a break in the middle at all. Get the dose dialed in and it works for the next couple hours and goes away afterwards. Nice quality erections too. I can usually get hard on my own but sometimes I can't stay that way. This is my back up plan of choice.

PT141 and melanotan ii (wicked tan included) work like mad for me. Bonkers long lasting spontaneous erections for two or three days. Like potentially embarrassing school class room hard ons, haha. Was a bit much though popping wood so hard it would wake me up at night thinking my wee wee may split the skin. Probably the hardest I have ever been, including as a teen. Was worried it wouldn't go away several times throughout but the erections, although long lasting (anywhere from 10 min to an hour) they would eventually come and go steady for a couple/few days.

Someone earlier mentioned their libido went through the roof on viagra (I think, too lazy to quote them, sorry). I have discovered that getting and obtaining an erection is not libido and libido is not an erection. Two different things with different treatments if needed.

I can get erect all I want as often as I want, but I can only orgasm once a day maybe, sometimes twice. Any more erection is a waste on me. What I mean to say is being hard shouldn't be confused with being horny.
What was your dosage of PT-141? Dosage of Melanotan ii? Which did you like better, PT-141 or Melanotan ii? I've got some PT-141, but am intrigued about the sunless tan from mii. Tx
 

Goel

Member
What was your dosage of PT-141? Dosage of Melanotan ii? Which did you like better, PT-141 or Melanotan ii? I've got some PT-141, but am intrigued about the sunless tan from mii. Tx

Having recently tried PT-141 I started at .10 mg, then .15, then .20 each separated by at least one week duration. FOR ME, .20 was too much and border line perma-boner. Not quite at the level of priapism but I got a good preview of what that would be like and all locker room jesting aside, I would not want to go there. .10 worked but was a little disappointed by the duration and Rockwell scale. .15 is just right, again, for me, but I've heard some people need up to .25mg. Based on my experience I'll never attempt that dosage. But your mileage may vary, just start low and increase with a suitable rest period of 7 days or more.
 
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Bbobtucker

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What was your dosage of PT-141? Dosage of Melanotan ii? Which did you like better, PT-141 or Melanotan ii? I've got some PT-141, but am intrigued about the sunless tan from mii. Tx
**This should not be used as medical advice or as a recommendation in any way shape or form. The peptides used were not prescription and resourced from the darkest sketchiest corners of internet (I am aware there is a prescription version of pt now). That said, it seems only appropriate to use the internet for dosing. Sketchy web research suggests about 0.025 mg/kg for both. I have a higher risk tolerance for peptide trials that some others I guess.

melanotan II & PT 141 both came in a 10mg bottle, reconstituted with 2ml bac water the suggested dose for my weight is .4 ml. Yes, almost half a 1 ml syringe! I thought that crazy and started with half that (many of the other peptides I have tried call for much smaller microgram doses).

I have used melanotan II twice. I get mild flushing for about 30 min after each shot that never diminished the longer I took it. Regarding tanning - The first time I used the half .2ml dose every other day. Wound up WAY to tan. Unnatural dark tan. I spend a great deal of time in the sun (wearing little clothing) though so it was just passed of to that. Second go round (the following summer) I only used .05 dose every other day and then spent an unusual amount of time outdoors doing yard work and got a wicked farmers tan that took a long time sunbathing to even out and still wound up way to dark. This stuff is no joke for the tanning. So if using, start slow and be sure to get even sun. My face got darkest once and I just wound up looking dirty almost. Lots of stories on the web about results. The one bonus to being that dark is no sunburn. I was able to stay in the sun for hours even though mid day and not burn. Regarding erections - silly random long lasting extremely hard erections. Almost embarrassing and popping up whenever the heck it felt like it no matter what I was doing and wouldn't go away quickly. Made my wee wee so sensitive that just touching my pants triggered it and the harder it got the better the strain felt and damn thing wouldn't go away easily. The .05 dose, I found random erections would last about three+ days so I went to once a week on dosing for remainder of bottle. Was really funny tho to see my wife's face when she would look over and wham, I'd be hard as a rock for no reason.

Similar results with PT. I did have similar mild flushing and some tummy cramping. Mild but present. More like hunger cramps almost but mild. Only lasted slightly longer than the flushing. No tan with PT but the erections similar to above. I may get more just to try lower doses more often and see what happens. Otherwise the erections are just too damn ridiculous and unpredictable.

For me and after a looooong ED journey I have discovered that getting erect is only part of my solution. I have to be horny also and getting hard doesn't just automagically make me randy and I can only orgasm once a day or so so I don't need to get hard every time the wind blows.

I really prefer a small daily Cialis dose and bimix when needed as a go to solution. I like the way the L-citrulline and Pycnogenol keep me veiney looking when working out and I also take a pygeum daily which seems to make me produce precum like crazy when aroused.

So prescribed hrt has me on trt (2x week), vit D, and dhea (daily). and I add to that cialis, L-citrulline (powder in coffee/juice), Pycnogenol, and pygeum. With a Bimix or trimix shot when needed. Hey, it's what works for me. Thanks!

**Edit - tanning - I don't know what color/shade of white I am, I think there is a scale somewhere. But I am not pasty white and tan pretty easily normally. I went from white to middle eastern or central american more olive skin color. Please do your own homework before using and read all about the potential sides before using.
 
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Wolverine

Active Member
**This should not be used as medical advice or as a recommendation in any way shape or form. The peptides used were not prescription and resourced from the darkest sketchiest corners of internet (I am aware there is a prescription version of pt now). That said, it seems only appropriate to use the internet for dosing. Sketchy web research suggests about 0.025 mg/kg for both. I have a higher risk tolerance for peptide trials that some others I guess.

melanotan II & PT 141 both came in a 10mg bottle, reconstituted with 2ml bac water the suggested dose for my weight is .4 ml. Yes, almost half a 1 ml syringe! I thought that crazy and started with half that (many of the other peptides I have tried call for much smaller microgram doses).

I have used melanotan II twice. I get mild flushing for about 30 min after each shot that never diminished the longer I took it. Regarding tanning - The first time I used the half .2ml dose every other day. Wound up WAY to tan. Unnatural dark tan. I spend a great deal of time in the sun (wearing little clothing) though so it was just passed of to that. Second go round (the following summer) I only used .05 dose every other day and then spent an unusual amount of time outdoors doing yard work and got a wicked farmers tan that took a long time sunbathing to even out and still wound up way to dark. This stuff is no joke for the tanning. So if using, start slow and be sure to get even sun. My face got darkest once and I just wound up looking dirty almost. Lots of stories on the web about results. The one bonus to being that dark is no sunburn. I was able to stay in the sun for hours even though mid day and not burn. Regarding erections - silly random long lasting extremely hard erections. Almost embarrassing and popping up whenever the heck it felt like it no matter what I was doing and wouldn't go away quickly. Made my wee wee so sensitive that just touching my pants triggered it and the harder it got the better the strain felt and damn thing wouldn't go away easily. The .05 dose, I found random erections would last about three+ days so I went to once a week on dosing for remainder of bottle. Was really funny tho to see my wife's face when she would look over and wham, I'd be hard as a rock for no reason.

Similar results with PT. I did have similar mild flushing and some tummy cramping. Mild but present. More like hunger cramps almost but mild. Only lasted slightly longer than the flushing. No tan with PT but the erections similar to above. I may get more just to try lower doses more often and see what happens. Otherwise the erections are just too damn ridiculous and unpredictable.

For me and after a looooong ED journey I have discovered that getting erect is only part of my solution. I have to be horny also and getting hard doesn't just automagically make me randy and I can only orgasm once a day or so so I don't need to get hard every time the wind blows.

I really prefer a small daily Cialis dose and bimix when needed as a go to solution. I like the way the L-citrulline and Pycnogenol keep me veiney looking when working out and I also take a pygeum daily which seems to make me produce precum like crazy when aroused.

So prescribed hrt has me on trt (2x week), vit D, and dhea (daily). and I add to that cialis, L-citrulline (powder in coffee/juice), Pycnogenol, and pygeum. With a Bimix or trimix shot when needed. Hey, it's what works for me. Thanks!

**Edit - tanning - I don't know what color/shade of white I am, I think there is a scale somewhere. But I am not pasty white and tan pretty easily normally. I went from white to middle eastern or central american more olive skin color. Please do your own homework before using and read all about the potential sides before using.
Thank you for the detailed response! Very informative.
 

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