Strategy to get E2 down just a little bit more

[albatross]

50mg every 3.5 days of Test E
500iu every 3.5 days of HCG

That protocol had my E2 @ 60pg/ml. and Test at 860 ng after 2 months it also put my Prolactin well over range. SHBG has been rock steady @ 35 nmol

Changed to 100iu of HCG and in 6 weeks this brought my E2 down to 36 pg/ml. which I assume is still slightly hot. Did not get a prolactin result this time.

What is the best way to move E2 down to about 30? I am about 25 pounds overweight at the moment so would losing that weight have any effect on E2 levels? I have been injured and felt sorry for myself for a few months which is why I gained the weight but I am now losing fat at a steady rate.

I don't want to touch any AI so should I decrease the Test slightly or decrease HCG again? or should I just lose the weight (should take about 12 weeks) and see where I am then?

Thanks

 

[Vince Carter]

Id cut to 45mg Cyp, assuming your Free T in trough is over the lab range...do you have a FT lab? Would like to see your PRL labs too if you have them.

Prolactin testing can possibly be influenced by having had sex/orgasm/etc in the 48hrs leading up to your blood draw.

 

[albatross]

Prolactin was 420 miu/L when I was on the previous protocol. So I would like to have thought it had gone down substantially from that. I had 3 prolactin tests last year and they were always at 180miu/L so the 420 result was unexpected.

As for symptoms water retention is the main one but also not as strong erections as I have when E2 is a bit lower. Before TRT I had a number of blood tests and my E2 was always at around 20 pg/ml so I assumed that was a good level for me to be at.

My Test level is within range and seems stable so it would not be my first choice to adjust this.

 

[Vince Carter]

If PRL is running that high for you you need to have an MRI of the pituitary, most run of the mill PRL tests guys see in a somewhat normal range is 5-10.

 

[albatross]

Prolactin range was 90miu/L - 330miu/L so I was over range but not crazily so. Free test is just over the top of the range at 20 ng/dl

 

[albatross]

I have been in the low E2 range a few times now as I am quite sensitive to Anastrazole. To be honest I don't want to touch the stuff again as it just messes me up and I can't get stable. My aim is to get a nice stability just by using T and HCG.

Do guys with high body fat aromatize more than guys of a lower body fat? if so then this could be a preferable parameter to adjust.

 

[mooseman109]

I came off of hcg completely and my E2dropped. I was symptomatic at 33 E2

 

[BigBamBoo]

For me...dropping HCG...and my nuts actually got fuller and moving from every 3.5 days for M-W-F on my T brought my E2 from 75+ down to just below 40.

I then switched from M-W-F to EOD, but then stopped TRT altogether so I do not have any labs from that protocol.


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