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Gman86

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Honestly, I spent a few years trying to figure it out myself. At first I thought it was estrogen being too high or two low. I tried protocols that kept estrogen between 15-30 and that definitely didn't help libido. Then I tried protocols that didn't treat estrogen at all and that was better but not really good. And then I tried everything in between and I stuck to the protocols for long periods of time with not much luck.

The only thing that sticks out to me is that on pellets I get this slow ramp up and slow ramp down in regards to testosterone and estrogen levels. My estrogen on pellets without any AI stays lower on pellets than injections and I think that's because of the slow ramp up..... but that's all bro science really. I don't have a definitive answer. I think there are so many moving parts to this whole equation that it's hard to really figure out why something works and other things don't. I'm just glad I tried pellets first and felt how good TRT can feel because I think I would have quit TRT altogether if I would have tried injections first.
Ya thank god u tried pellets before injections, because there’s no real evidence that would of made u think pellets would of been any better. But clearly real world results are proving that for whatever reason ur body responds much better to pellets.

What did u do to get ur E2 down on injections? If it was using an ai, what dose were u taking?
 

UCFguy01

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Did you ever try daily injections?
yes, I tried daily for around 6 months. Still no(or not much) libido with that protocol. I also tried every other day, twice a week, and once a week. Everything else was great on all protocols except for libido.
 

UCFguy01

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Or cream to the ball sack?
Never tried the cream. I was already doing daily injections and didn't want another thing to have to remember to do every day. I just went back to the thing I knew worked best which was pellets. One poke every three months or so. It's sore for a week and then back in business. Pretty easy for me.
 

UCFguy01

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Ya thank god u tried pellets before injections, because there’s no real evidence that would of made u think pellets would of been any better. But clearly real world results are proving that for whatever reason ur body responds much better to pellets.

What did u do to get ur E2 down on injections? If it was using an ai, what dose were u taking?
I used anastrozole at first on injections and my junk literally wouldn't work for three days. Then my doc moved me over to exemestane which worked better overall but still didn't really help with libido no matter what dose I took.

Like I said, everything else on injections was great. Good energy, good sense of well being, it helped with anxiety and depressed feelings, etc.......but I just couldn't do without the libido anymore. My wife is much happier now.
 

Gman86

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I used anastrozole at first on injections and my junk literally wouldn't work for three days. Then my doc moved me over to exemestane which worked better overall but still didn't really help with libido no matter what dose I took.

Like I said, everything else on injections was great. Good energy, good sense of well being, it helped with anxiety and depressed feelings, etc.......but I just couldn't do without the libido anymore. My wife is much happier now.
What doses of anastrozole and exemestane did u try?
 

UCFguy01

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What doses of anastrozole and exemestane did u try?
I tried everything from two pills a week(2mg) of anastrozole down to 1/4 pill (.25mg) a week.

I tried 1 pill a week of exemestane(25mg) all the way down to 1/4 of a pill(6.25mg) a week.

I did mutliple trial runs for 8-12 weeks for each dosage with not much luck.
 

UCFguy01

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For the record, I'm a fan of injections if they work for you. I wish they worked for me but unfortunately they didn't. Thankfully i found something that does work for me. I wanted to start this thread in case there were others that injections didn't work for. There are other ways that might work. Pellets being one....someone also mentioned creams as well.
 

M.J

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I am on injection and having both libido and ER problems. I have to take cialis but I feel like a robot in bed. Libido is not there.
Tried cream and felt nothing actually maybe worse than Injecrion. Your thread will make me try patches maybe it would work.

can you put the patches your self or you have to go to the clinic ? How often do you change them and how long you been o man them ? Libido still good ?
 

M.J

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Is it the gradual increase maybe ?
Like injection 50mg once weekly then 100 mg then 150 mg and the fourth week going back to 50mg.

I remember at one time I restarted and was doing 50mg twice weekly after the first injection I had the best honey moon I ever had. “Better than the 100mg protocol honeymoon”
 

UCFguy01

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I am on injection and having both libido and ER problems. I have to take cialis but I feel like a robot in bed. Libido is not there.
Tried cream and felt nothing actually maybe worse than Injecrion. Your thread will make me try patches maybe it would work.

can you put the patches your self or you have to go to the clinic ? How often do you change them and how long you been o man them ? Libido still good ?
I too had to take Cialis with injections. I also felt like a "robot" in bed as you put it.

I'm not sure about patches. I've never tried a patch. I'm doing pellets where they insert them under the skin on your butt.
 

UCFguy01

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Is it the gradual increase maybe ?
Like injection 50mg once weekly then 100 mg then 150 mg and the fourth week going back to 50mg.

I remember at one time I restarted and was doing 50mg twice weekly after the first injection I had the best honey moon I ever had. “Better than the 100mg protocol honeymoon”
I personally think it has a lot to do with the gradual increase and the gradual decrease over a 3 month period.

I do know the "honeymoon" phase you're referring to. I've had that in the past but this isn't it. This is more of just a general sense of well being with good energy and great libido. It stops my anxious depressed type feelings and keeps me feeling normal. Nothing crazy super intense.....just a good overall feeling.
 
I personally think it has a lot to do with the gradual increase and the gradual decrease over a 3 month period.

I do know the "honeymoon" phase you're referring to. I've had that in the past but this isn't it. This is more of just a general sense of well being with good energy and great libido. It stops my anxious depressed type feelings and keeps me feeling normal. Nothing crazy super intense.....just a good overall feeling.
How has the second round of pellets gone?
 

DaytonaJonah

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Going very well so far. I'm on week 6 and feeling great. I don't come on here much because everything is working so good. No need to come here looking for solutions anymore.
UCFguy01, so how's it going thus far again on your next T-pellet ride?
I'm scheduled for bioidentical T-pellets to be inserted in exactly 1 week from today.
I am hoping to see if pellets will do the trick for me too as I've been pinning for nearly 2 years now with only moderate success in finding that sweet spot of well-being and great libido.
 

DaytonaJonah

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Things are good good. I'm about a month away from my third round. Still feeling good. Great energy, good mood, overall sense of well being is awesome, my marriage is rocking since the libido has been back. All is good!!!
Having pellets inserted next Tuesday. I've had enough of the injections the last 2 years to only find a missing libido albeit with fairly good well-being of increased T levels. As UCFguy has confirmed, pellets got him well-being, energy AND libido too. Others may find success on injections, but so far I haven't.
Will report back after I've had some time totin' around the pellets in my backside for a few weeks.
 

JA Battle

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Having pellets inserted next Tuesday. I've had enough of the injections the last 2 years to only find a missing libido albeit with fairly good well-being of increased T levels. As UCFguy has confirmed, pellets got him well-being, energy AND libido too. Others may find success on injections, but so far I haven't.
Will report back after I've had some time totin' around the pellets in my backside for a few weeks.
Thanks for keeping us all in mind. Although I’m not in the near future considering pellets, this thread has been on my radar for some time and I may give it a go at some point down the road.
 

UCFguy01

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Having pellets inserted next Tuesday. I've had enough of the injections the last 2 years to only find a missing libido albeit with fairly good well-being of increased T levels. As UCFguy has confirmed, pellets got him well-being, energy AND libido too. Others may find success on injections, but so far I haven't.
Will report back after I've had some time totin' around the pellets in my backside for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope it works for you like it did for me. I think there are some of us where the injections (for whatever reason) aren't good for the libido. Hope you'll post your results here
 
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