I never felt good on anything less than 25 Mg cyp. I started at 20mg prop and went up to 25mg after I noticed I wasn’t feeling well in the morning until the shot see if that would make a difference but it has not. I feel best at 1500 tt and 35-40 free. A bit on the high side but works for me. I really liked the idea of the prop but just not for me.. Plus the suspension has so much more oil you just end up injecting so much more stuff into you.