I just read a research note on ergo-log. I have clipped the summary below and also comments from a Torifene user:
SERMs boost T levels in men only
Doping experts knew it already, but it's always nice when their views are confirmed by science. Anti-oestrogens like clomiphene [the active ingredient in Clomid], tamoxifen [Nolvadex] and toremifene [Fareston] only boost androgen levels in men, not in women.
Toremifene probably has fewer side effects than the other SERMs. Chemical athletes who make long-term use of SERMs often complain of reduced libido, and sometimes also of stiff or even painful joints. You rarely hear these complaints from toremifene users.
On the web there are even stories from toremifene users whose libido has increased. "It relieves my prostate, it increases my libido extremely fast, gives me a porn-star load, it clears my acne and most importantly, at a high enough dose (120-150 mg) it gives me the typical dianabol feel good", writes one user on the CEM-forum. [cuttingedgemuscle.com 12-18-2010]
I am wondering why toremifene would not work in place of clomiphene, given the user comment suggesting excellent subjective results. Any thoughts?
SERMs boost T levels in men only
Doping experts knew it already, but it's always nice when their views are confirmed by science. Anti-oestrogens like clomiphene [the active ingredient in Clomid], tamoxifen [Nolvadex] and toremifene [Fareston] only boost androgen levels in men, not in women.
Toremifene probably has fewer side effects than the other SERMs. Chemical athletes who make long-term use of SERMs often complain of reduced libido, and sometimes also of stiff or even painful joints. You rarely hear these complaints from toremifene users.
On the web there are even stories from toremifene users whose libido has increased. "It relieves my prostate, it increases my libido extremely fast, gives me a porn-star load, it clears my acne and most importantly, at a high enough dose (120-150 mg) it gives me the typical dianabol feel good", writes one user on the CEM-forum. [cuttingedgemuscle.com 12-18-2010]
I am wondering why toremifene would not work in place of clomiphene, given the user comment suggesting excellent subjective results. Any thoughts?
