Thoughts / Advice on bloodwork

Trilko

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Hi all,

As a little background .... I've been struggling quite heavily over the past 3/4 years with elements of low mood/depression, fatigue, lack of energy, low libido etc. To be honest, just not feeling myself. Have always put it down to mental issues and just aspects of life but thought i may as well get checked physically to rule anything out. Results attached from yesterday.

Admittedly, i'm still fairly new to doing my own research into the detail so thought i would also reach out for some opinions and potentially advice on how i could improve across a few areas from peoples experiences.

As an FYI my Albumin was also 46 (Got from a finger prick)

Any advice would be welcome :)
 

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With the caveat that your results are hard to read due to low resolution, it appears that Vermeulen calculated free testosterone is about 11 ng/dL. This is not really into hypogonadal territory. On the other hand, having prolactin near top-of-range can be problematic. If your health and lifestyle are otherwise good then you could run a trial with low doses of cabergoline to see if that ameliorates your symptoms. You'd be looking to push prolactin down to 100-200 mIU/L. Starting doses for cabergoline would be 50-100 µg twice a week. Because prolactin also opposes the HPTA it's possible you'd see improvements in testosterone. More aggressive doctors might order an MRI to rule out blatant pituitary abnormalities. But these are less likely unless prolactin is considerably out-of-range.
 
I was curious what AI would say about cabergoline vs P5P:

Effectiveness

Cabergoline is generally more effective for lowering prolactin levels, particularly in cases of hyperprolactinemia in men, such as those caused by prolactinomas. Multiple studies show it can normalize prolactin levels and shrink tumors, with success rates often exceeding 70-90% in reducing symptoms and prolactin concentrations. It acts as a dopamine agonist, directly inhibiting prolactin secretion from the pituitary gland. At micro-doses like 50-100 µg twice weekly (lower than typical 500 µg doses), it may still provide gradual reductions, though evidence for such low doses is limited and mostly anecdotal or from broader low-dose studies showing sustained remission after prolonged use.
P5P (pyridoxal 5'-phosphate, the active form of vitamin B6) has shown some ability to lower prolactin, with one study reporting a 68% reduction after 16 weeks of high-dose supplementation, and others noting inhibition of prolactin release in specific contexts like exercise-induced spikes or as an adjunctive therapy. However, evidence is less consistent and often limited to milder or adjunctive roles, with mixed results in areas like post-partum lactation suppression.
Direct comparisons, mostly from lactation inhibition studies, favor cabergoline for superior efficacy (e.g., 78% vs. 35% success in one trial), though one small study found no significant difference in prolactin reduction between vitamin B6 and cabergoline. If the goal is reliable and potentially faster prolactin reduction to midrange or lower, cabergoline has stronger supporting data, especially for men.

Side Effects

Cabergoline's common side effects include nausea, headache, dizziness, constipation, fatigue, and low blood pressure, which can occur even at lower doses, though they may be milder with micro-dosing. Less common but serious risks include impulse control issues (e.g., gambling urges) and, rarely, heart valve problems or fibrosis, though these are more associated with higher or long-term doses. Micro-dosing might reduce these, but monitoring is still needed.

P5P is typically well-tolerated at moderate doses, with mild side effects like nausea, stomach pain, headache, or loss of appetite. However, high doses (e.g., over 250-300 mg/day chronically) can lead to sensory neuropathy, causing numbness, tingling, or burning in extremities, along with ataxia, skin reactions, photosensitivity, or dizziness. These are reversible if caught early but highlight the need for dose caution.

In comparisons, cabergoline shows more frequent mild adverse effects than pyridoxine (a B6 form), but no major events were noted in either for lactation contexts. If minimizing pharmaceutical side effects is key, P5P may be preferable as a supplement, assuming doses stay below toxicity thresholds. For those tolerant of potential GI or neurological symptoms but seeking potency, cabergoline's profile is acceptable, especially at micro-doses.
 

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