Starting TRT Soon

I could never get consistent sleep when I was really low carb. Your sleep episodes sound like low blood sugar episodes. You can try a large spoonful of glycine before you sleep, or possibly a spoonful of quality honey (e.g. buckwheat). I do use melatonin but that will wear of after a few hours and I doubt if it would override a cortisol spike which is the mechanism IIRC by which your body calls for more blood sugar. If you are active, ultra-low carb may not be necessary and bumping up the carbs a little may resolve your sleep issues.
 
I could never get consistent sleep when I was really low carb. Your sleep episodes sound like low blood sugar episodes. You can try a large spoonful of glycine before you sleep, or possibly a spoonful of quality honey (e.g. buckwheat). I do use melatonin but that will wear of after a few hours and I doubt if it would override a cortisol spike which is the mechanism IIRC by which your body calls for more blood sugar. If you are active, ultra-low carb may not be necessary and bumping up the carbs a little may resolve your sleep issues.
I wish it was. I almost always have been low carb, was off of it for about 6 months. I wish that is why I'm waking up.
 
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Took my third shot on Friday. After a quick libido boost, it went dead and has been the last couple of days yesterday and today I’m much more irritable and moody, energy is pretty decent. I know it’s early but I’m already wondering if 120 a week is too much of a starting test and I should bump it down to 100.
 
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Took my third shot on Friday. After a quick libido boost, it went dead and has been the last couple of days yesterday and today I’m much more irritable and moody, energy is pretty decent. I know it’s early but I’m already wondering if 120 a week is too much of a starting test and I should bump it down to 100.

You are only a week in!

Bad move getting caught up on experiencing any ups/downs especially when it comes to libido/erectile function.

Way too early to be jumping the gun here.

Your hormones are in FLUX and T levels will be rising over the following weeks and the body is trying to adjust to the increase in T and it's metabolites and throw in increase in dopamine too!

Even then once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks TC/TE) it will still take a few months for your body to adapt to its new set-point.

Again the first 6 weeks means nothing when looking at the bigger picture here!

Just stick with your protocol.

Does not matter whether you started <100 mg T/week vs higher as it is a common scenario for most to experience ups/downs during the first 4-6 weeks as hormones will be in FLUX until blood levels have stabilized.

Once blood work is done 6 weeks in you can see where said protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) has your trough TT and more importantly FT, estradiol and other critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit.

Again patience is key here!

This is critical!

*Following the initiation of testosterone therapy, serum concentrations of testosterone are known to correct earlier than the symptomatic, structural, and metabolic signs associated with TD.76,77





26. What is a reasonable timeline to begin to observe improvements in the signs and symptoms of testosterone deficiency?

*Following the initiation of testosterone therapy, serum concentrations of testosterone are known to correct earlier than the symptomatic, structural, and metabolic signs associated with TD.76,77 As such, patients should be counseled that symptom response will not be immediate. Expectations for treatment response should be established with each patient. Patients can anticipate improvements in many of the common symptoms of TD (libido, energy levels, sexual function) after 3 months of treatment or longer. Metabolic and structural (body composition, muscle mass, bone density) changes may take upwards of 6 months. 77 In addition, patients should be counseled that diet and exercise in combination with testosterone therapy are recommended for body composition changes.

*Appreciating this pattern of response to testosterone therapy is fundamental when determining the impact of treatment and the appropriate timing of follow-up evaluations while on therapy. For example, if patients undergo a symptom review and measurement of testosterone levels too early (< 3 months), it may lead both physicians and patients to conclude that the treatment has not been impactful (i.e. normal levels of testosterone without symptomatic/structural/metabolic benefit). However, if the same assessment was scheduled 3-6 months after the initiation of therapy, the clinical response tends to be more reflective of normalized levels of serum testosterone.
 
You are only a week in!

Bad move getting caught up on experiencing any ups/downs especially when it comes to libido/erectile function.

Way too early to be jumping the gun here.

Your hormones are in FLUX and T levels will be rising over the following weeks and the body is trying to adjust to the increase in T and it's metabolites and throw in increase in dopamine too!

Even then once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks TC/TE) it will still take a few months for your body to adapt to its new set-point.

Again the first 6 weeks means nothing when looking at the bigger picture here!

Just stick with your protocol.

Does not matter whether you started <100 mg T/week vs higher as it is a common scenario for most to experience ups/downs during the first 4-6 weeks as hormones will be in FLUX until blood levels have stabilized.

Once blood work is done 6 weeks in you can see where said protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) has your trough TT and more importantly FT, estradiol and other critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit.

Again patience is key here!

This is critical!

*Following the initiation of testosterone therapy, serum concentrations of testosterone are known to correct earlier than the symptomatic, structural, and metabolic signs associated with TD.76,77





26. What is a reasonable timeline to begin to observe improvements in the signs and symptoms of testosterone deficiency?

*Following the initiation of testosterone therapy, serum concentrations of testosterone are known to correct earlier than the symptomatic, structural, and metabolic signs associated with TD.76,77 As such, patients should be counseled that symptom response will not be immediate. Expectations for treatment response should be established with each patient. Patients can anticipate improvements in many of the common symptoms of TD (libido, energy levels, sexual function) after 3 months of treatment or longer. Metabolic and structural (body composition, muscle mass, bone density) changes may take upwards of 6 months. 77 In addition, patients should be counseled that diet and exercise in combination with testosterone therapy are recommended for body composition changes.

*Appreciating this pattern of response to testosterone therapy is fundamental when determining the impact of treatment and the appropriate timing of follow-up evaluations while on therapy. For example, if patients undergo a symptom review and measurement of testosterone levels too early (< 3 months), it may lead both physicians and patients to conclude that the treatment has not been impactful (i.e. normal levels of testosterone without symptomatic/structural/metabolic benefit). However, if the same assessment was scheduled 3-6 months after the initiation of therapy, the clinical response tends to be more reflective of normalized levels of serum testosterone.
I hear you. Thanks for the insight. I also have algae increased pulse rate and headaches off and on. I assume this is normal as well.
 
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Took my third shot on Friday. After a quick libido boost, it went dead and has been the last couple of days yesterday and today I’m much more irritable and moody, energy is pretty decent. I know it’s early but I’m already wondering if 120 a week is too much of a starting test and I should bump it down to 100.
Your hormone levels are not at a steady state yet, that will take 42 days to achieve.

Now sit back, relax and be patient.
 
Bump

Took my third shot on Friday. After a quick libido boost, it went dead and has been the last couple of days yesterday and today I’m much more irritable and moody, energy is pretty decent. I know it’s early but I’m already wondering if 120 a week is too much of a starting test and I should bump it down to 100.
That's 12 mg a day of testosterone, more than almost every man makes naturally. Of course it's too much. I don't see how anybody can defend starting out with a dose this high or higher. This should only happen if you tell your doctor that anabolism is your number one priority and you knowingly accept the risks.
 
That's 12 mg a day of testosterone, more than almost every man makes naturally. Of course it's too much. I don't see how anybody can defend starting out with a dose this high or higher. This should only happen if you tell your doctor that anabolism is your number one priority and you knowingly accept the risks.
It’s been well known that some men, hyper metabolizers, in the minority, need three times the amount than you’re talking about to achieve hormone levels within the normal range.

Response to a set number of mgs is highly variable person to person. He may be very sensitive to hormones and/or response to TRT.

I do believe, based on the original posters comments, symptoms that he is most likely overdosed.

An 80 mg per week starting dose would’ve been more prudent. When I was on a weekly injection protocol, 75 mg per week, my trough was 450’s seven days later, putting my peak somewhere in the 800 range due to the elimination half-life of 50%.
 
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