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johann

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First Test 10/20/13


Not using anything
Test- 472
Free- 6.4


Second Test 11/26/13


Using Test C 50.mg a Week
Test- 378
Free T- 5.9
E2- 8.1


Will go up to 2x50.mg a week now, and add 125 iu HCG ED and take next blood test in 4 weeks..
 
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Gene Devine

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Can you add reference ranges for each lab.

Clearly, 50 mg is not enough. Remember, only about 70% of the 50 mg will make it into your blood stream so it's a very low dose.

The HCG at 125 iu a week is very very low as well. You might be better off at 125 iu Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
 

johann

Member
Hi Gene,
Yes it's clearly to low, just wanted to start low than to high, and then add. Butt the HCG is 125 iu ED (Every day)
And lets see how that will come out after 4 weeks, will post it all and like all input on what can be or done better.

Reference ranges.
Test 348-1197
Free T 6.8-21.5
E2 7.6-42.6
Thanks
Johann
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
The 125 iu everyday is fine; that's what I do.

Your E2 level is very low...any reason for that?

I like your take on "start low and go slow" ... wish more Docs took that approach.
 

johann

Member
Think I stole that HCG protcol from you:)

I do not know why thats so low, I was surprise, I thougt it would be to high becuse I am a litle soft (baby fat) But hopefully that will go up to with added T and HCG.
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
Think I stole that HCG protcol from you:)

I do not know why thats so low, I was surprise, I thougt it would be to high becuse I am a litle soft (baby fat) But hopefully that will go up to with added T and HCG.


E2 will go up with the increase in Testosterone and HCG. This is one lab better in the 20's.

You can try adding in some Flax Seed or Soy into your supplements for a bit to help elevate E2.

Usually, when it's low like this is a sign of a well functioning liver.
 

johann

Member
E2 will go up with the increase in Testosterone and HCG. This is one lab better in the 20's.

You can try adding in some Flax Seed or Soy into your supplements for a bit to help elevate E2.

Usually, when it's low like this is a sign of a well functioning liver.

If my liver is so good, maybe I should add some beer:)

Thanks Gene, I will add Flax Seed.

And hope to get back my old body were it was..
 
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johann

Member
New test.

2/27/2014

Test 1173
Free T 18.4 Taking 125 mg Test C a week (62.5 2x a week) HCG 2x500iu a week.

The new test 5/5/2014

Test 1394
Free T 16.2
E 35.6

Taking 125 mg Test C a week (62.5 2x a week) HCG 2x500iu a week.
Will lower the test to 100 mg per week now..
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
New test.

2/27/2014

Test 1173
Free T 18.4 Taking 125 mg Test C a week (62.5 2x a week) HCG 2x500iu a week.

The new test 5/5/2014

Test 1394
Free T 16.2
E 35.6

Taking 125 mg Test C a week (62.5 2x a week) HCG 2x500iu a week.
Will lower the test to 100 mg per week now..


Agree on the lower dose.

Would like to see more...what is your Hematocrit levels?
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
I do not know Hematocrit level, will add that in next:( Will go aginn after 4 weeks, E2 ok?


There are certain labs that are a MUST when on TRT and this is one of them kid you not!

Go to the main form and look for the thread on blood work this will help you know what you must have if your Physician doesn't.
 

johann

Member
There are certain labs that are a MUST when on TRT and this is one of them kid you not!

Go to the main form and look for the thread on blood work this will help you know what you must have if your Physician doesn't.

Yes,
just got a Dr last week under my insurance, going in for i physical this week and the Hematocrit should be in that blood test.
 
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