Hi
I have secondary hypogonadism due to some pituitary issues (maybe very very small rathke cleft cyst, or possible empty sella syndrome- doc are not sure). I had low T considering my age. Tried Clomid (1-50mg/ed; 2- 25mg/ed )twice over 2015 and my T as well as LH, FSH rise. But I did not feel quite good on it, beacuse clomid elevates my Acth, so cortisol as well(its important - even when I did not take clomid I got Acth slightly elevated, cortisol as well, I had problems with sleep during night). Also I got high level of aromatization(even if not on clomid).
Then in December 2015 I tried Tamoxifene (it was not from legal source), I read that 20mg Tamox. = 150mg clomid, so I divide pill for 4mg parts. Took it three days in a row. I had to stop took it due to shitty mood, sleeping 13 hours day, joints aches, I was very calm, patient as never (typical low E2 symptoms).
My levels of T stay at the same level or slightly elevate, but my E2 (which was between 35-45) drop to level 20-25. My cortisol due to (I think) lower E2 is now in range. Acth sometimes is elevated. I sleep 80-90 % better than before Tamoxifen. I became less nervous and I limit my cigarette smoking habit to 1 per mont (20 cigarettes/month before Tamox). My general frame of mind is better, but not perfect. I want to try clomid one more time in very low doses, maybe with lower aromatization it will work.
Does someone have nay thoughts ? I know that aromatization is occuring in liver, so maybe there is solution? Also I want to mention that half life of Nolva is the sam as Clomid.
05.2016
T - 3,77 ng/ml
Lh- 2,76
Fsh-1,27
Acth-68 (7-63)
Cortisol 16 (6-18)
E2-21
Before Nolva december 2015
T - 3,55 ng/ml
Lh- 2,95
Fsh-1,79
Acth-83 (7-63)
Cortisol 17 (6-18)
E2-32
I have secondary hypogonadism due to some pituitary issues (maybe very very small rathke cleft cyst, or possible empty sella syndrome- doc are not sure). I had low T considering my age. Tried Clomid (1-50mg/ed; 2- 25mg/ed )twice over 2015 and my T as well as LH, FSH rise. But I did not feel quite good on it, beacuse clomid elevates my Acth, so cortisol as well(its important - even when I did not take clomid I got Acth slightly elevated, cortisol as well, I had problems with sleep during night). Also I got high level of aromatization(even if not on clomid).
Then in December 2015 I tried Tamoxifene (it was not from legal source), I read that 20mg Tamox. = 150mg clomid, so I divide pill for 4mg parts. Took it three days in a row. I had to stop took it due to shitty mood, sleeping 13 hours day, joints aches, I was very calm, patient as never (typical low E2 symptoms).
My levels of T stay at the same level or slightly elevate, but my E2 (which was between 35-45) drop to level 20-25. My cortisol due to (I think) lower E2 is now in range. Acth sometimes is elevated. I sleep 80-90 % better than before Tamoxifen. I became less nervous and I limit my cigarette smoking habit to 1 per mont (20 cigarettes/month before Tamox). My general frame of mind is better, but not perfect. I want to try clomid one more time in very low doses, maybe with lower aromatization it will work.
Does someone have nay thoughts ? I know that aromatization is occuring in liver, so maybe there is solution? Also I want to mention that half life of Nolva is the sam as Clomid.
05.2016
T - 3,77 ng/ml
Lh- 2,76
Fsh-1,27
Acth-68 (7-63)
Cortisol 16 (6-18)
E2-21
Before Nolva december 2015
T - 3,55 ng/ml
Lh- 2,95
Fsh-1,79
Acth-83 (7-63)
Cortisol 17 (6-18)
E2-32