New Labs In!

bodisabba · Nov 14, 2016

I got these new labs in today and was wondering if you guys had any thoughts? I am taking 85 mg every three days subq with 1/4 AI every other day. I got my blood work done on shot day. My last test my testosterone was above 800 and was shooting in my Quad... I was on this protocol for five weeks. I would like for my testosterone to be higher. Any thoughts would be helpful.

CoastWatcher · Nov 14, 2016

You didn't tell us how you feel. That's the key question. Are you chasing a number, or are you still not feeling as well as you'd like to be. Erectile function? Fatigue and brain-fog? Libido? A bit more context will generate a stronger discussion.

CSI007 · Nov 14, 2016

Just guessing, but it looks like he was getting high serum T levels shooting into his quads vs sub-Q if I am reading that correctly.

Vince Carter · Nov 14, 2016

CSI007 said:
Just guessing, but it looks like he was getting high serum T levels shooting into his quads vs sub-Q if I am reading that correctly.

I agree but was thinking if the timing isn't exact from one test to the next it could be a wash between the two tests.

bodisabba · Nov 14, 2016

Great Point! These are my third labs since I started and it was not the sensitive estrogen test. On my first test of testosterone was 850 and free testosterone was 215 on whatever test that was... Estrogen was 35... I was taking way too much at the beginning in felt a lot of extra energy which has since gone away with this latest protocol. Erections and libido have always been great. I would like more energy but dont want to harm myself long term. My origional tests was 295 and hard really low energy.

CSI007 · Nov 14, 2016

Did you have libido and erections issues before you started T? Just curious. I am on week 4 of T and libido is marginally better but erections are still not there.

bodisabba · Nov 14, 2016

No never had any issues with that...

Vince Carter · Nov 15, 2016

As noted chasing the number isn't the best thing to do, you didn't really state that there's a complaint or negative symptom so we would usually say that things are just fine.
Now, if you do want a higher TT...I would increase from 85, to 90mg, and retest. I would not modify your AI/E2 at this time as that may come up just a bit with the Cyp dose increase. I do think 18/1 is a little low but as stated, absent symptoms/complaints it should be left alone.

Vince · Nov 15, 2016

Is HCG available to you? You could just add 500iu of HCG on the same day you inject your testosterone.

CoastWatcher · Nov 15, 2016

Vince Carter said:
As noted chasing the number isn't the best thing to do, you didn't really state that there's a complaint or negative symptom so we would usually say that things are just fine.
Now, if you do want a higher TT...I would increase from 85, to 90mg, and retest. I would not modify your AI/E2 at this time as that may come up just a bit with the Cyp dose increase. I do think 18/1 is a little low but as stated, absent symptoms/complaints it should be left alone.

If you increase your testosterone dose, a small amount, as Vince Carter suggests here, is the place to start. The idea of starting low and going slowly is a sound one.