My journey has just begun and a question.

[Periandros]

So, I have just received my first package from Primebody. The protocol calls for 200mg test cyp per week. Also 1 mg Anastrozole split into two weekly doses and 500 units twice a week (total 1000 per week).

i am about to do my first injection later today and I am very stressed about it. Never injected anything before. My questions is as follows: my testosterone has come in prefilled syringes with 200 mg each, basically for weekly injections.. Based on all the discussions here I will be better off injecting twice a week, 100 mg each time. I am going to call them to change the next shipment to 10 100mg syringes instead of the 5 200mg ones they sent me. The doctor said I will be ok if I inject half the dose one day, cap the syringe and inject the rest after 3.5 days. Is there a problem with this from a sanitary perspective?

Thanks for for your help. I would not be able to start this journey without having this site.

 

[CoastWatcher]

It's hardly a sterile technique. No advice regarding switching the needle? A milligram of Anastrozole per week - did you have elevated estradiol in your initial bloodwork?

 

[Re-Ride]

The clinic owners first saw success as an automotive lube business. That's how they learned to source their cyp in drums. If you're not ready for a lube job go to someone who will supply 10ml 200mg/ml vials that are properly labeled. If they won't give you a script because "their service is all inclusive" insist on a filter with every shipment and self stick reminder labels.

Injection anxiety: Consider practicing sub Q a few times with insulin syringes and bac water. You'll surprise yourself how quickly you'll get over it.

Primebody: "Will my insurance cover the treatments?" "Prime Body is a cash-based protocol" "Insurance generally only pays for treating disease, not to optimize health"

edit:
HOGWASH. If you are diagnosed with hypogonadism by a licensed physician you have a covered medical condition. Labs, office visits and medicine are all covered. We end up paying cash because MD's qualified to offer state-of-the art endocrine care and who are willing to resist central government agenda orchestrated by shadowy figures are few in number. If PRIMEBODY needs to frame your health care as a spa treatment how can you trust them to provide proper medical care?

 

[Re-Ride]

Periandros, the most challenging aspect of TRT is finding someone who will give you a proper work-up then monitor and fine tune your therapy. Making the decision to go on TRT is difficult enough. We certainly do not need additional and unnecessary barriers to care such as access to supplies which best suit our individual needs.

It's possible that Prime Body is your best immediate option to get started. An alternate theory to "they buy it in drums" is this:
It is considerably more difficult for a pt to sell or transfer cyp supplied in individual doses than if he is supplied a 10ml vial. PB may feel that they will be under less scrutiny by supplying pre-filled syringes. In the current climate it is conceivable that gov agents "strongly suggested" this delivery.

You've had your labs and now you have your T. Your question is how to make the best of it and go with E3.5D dosing. One way might be to back fill insulin syringes from the pre-filled ones you were sent. Please keep us informed of the tests PB orders for you and your progress. Congratulations on getting this far. Good luck with therapy!

 

[Periandros]

So I did the first injection in life today. Thank god for tube, there are so many great videos there. I did not feel any pain, so it was much better than expected. I injected the entire 200 mg bu next time I will find a way to split it in two. All an all, a not bad at at all. My confidence is high now. Thanks for all the great advice.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

So I did the first injection in life today. Thank god for tube, there are so many great videos there. I did not feel any pain, so it was much better than expected. I injected the entire 200 mg bu next time I will find a way to split it in two. All an all, a not bad at at all. My confidence is high now. Thanks for all the great advice.

Periandros,

I will echo what Coastwatcher asked...why have you been prescribed Anastrozole? What was your pre-TRT sensitive E2 level?

Second question...are the syringes you're receiving from Primebody Luer-Lock syringes? If so, you can buy Luer-Lock needles from any online medical supply company, and just change the needle for each injection. This is not the optimal solution, but it's better than reusing a needle 3.5 days later...something I wouldn't do. Why can't they provide you with a 10mL vial of Test Cyp, and you buy your own insulin pins? That way you can draw and inject yourself with a fresh pin every time. Better all the way around.

 

[Re-Ride]

Periandros,

Why can't they provide you with a 10mL vial of Test Cyp, and you buy your own insulin pins? That way you can draw and inject yourself with a fresh pin every time. Better all the way around.

Jackie, Don't you think it's possible that the pre-filled syringes is a strategy, either voluntary or "suggested", to lessen scrutiny?

Consider: When agencies are over-funded as they have been since 2001 they will always look to justify their existence. It's no coincidence that both doctors and motorcycle clubs are finding themselves objects of excessive and unwarranted interest by exactly the same alphabet groupies. The sad thing is the enforcers themselves are the ones proven to be illegitimate users of steroids, drugs and guns. Raise your hand folks if you think men getting TRT scripts then selling their medicine to pay their mortgage is a real problem that justifies the heat doctors are telling us the are experiencing.

When this weirdness, which we know is happening, is put in context with the dramatic rise in all sorts of other heavy handiness seen all over the land anyone with faculties has to ask WTF is going on, what is the master plan? On larger forums, whenever this subject is broached the next post is always a tin hat attack by some new or obscure member. What are the implications of that?

None of us are in a position to alter what is happening. However when a member is put at risk by highly unusual and medically unacceptable practices we need to ask why and whose next.

 

[Periandros]

My labs are as follows:
total testosterone 440 (348-1197)
free testosterone 10.1 (6.8-21.5)
estradiol 32.2. (7.6-52.6)
LH. 6.6. (1.7-8.6)
FSH. 7.0. (1.5-12.4)

i beleive they they gave me the Arimidex because my Estradiol is on the higher side so 200 mg of Test a week will tip me over the edge. Also I carry some weight around the mid section. Also, based on these numbers, I hope i have made the right decision to start TRT. My labs are not terrible. Last summer my testosteron was 370 but it seems it has improved somewhat. Comments will be greatly appreciated.

 

[CoastWatcher]

My labs are as follows:
total testosterone 440 (348-1197)
free testosterone 10.1 (6.8-21.5)
estradiol 32.2. (7.6-52.6)
LH. 6.6. (1.7-8.6)
FSH. 7.0. (1.5-12.4)

i beleive they they gave me the Arimidex because my Estradiol is on the higher side so 200 mg of Test a week will tip me over the edge. Also I carry some weight around the mid section. Also, based on these numbers, I hope i have made the right decision to start TRT. My labs are not terrible. Last summer my testosteron was 370 but it seems it has improved somewhat. Comments will be greatly appreciated.

Based on the range you posted, you may have had the incorrect estradiol test run. As has been established, you want the so-called "sensitive" assay run (liquid chromatography, dual mass spec, LC, MS/MS). If you had the standard test, it is of virtually no value in designing a protocol. Chances are it, your estradiol level, is actually lower than it is being reported in the standard scale...another reason to question the use of Anastrozole at this point.

 

[Periandros]

Thanks for your input. Actually, the last 2 months my nipples have been somewhat sensitive, like nothing I have felt before. In any case I will do the estradiol sensitive test to make

 

[CoastWatcher]

Thanks for your input. Actually, the last 2 months my nipples have been somewhat sensitive, like nothing I have felt before. In any case I will do the estradiol sensitive test to make

Nipple sensitivity doesn't necessarily mean gynocomastia is lurking. A lot of hormonal activity - that your body isn't used to - is taking place. Testing is a good idea.

 

[Periandros]

One month update.

So I have started injecting 200mg weekly plus twice a weak 500 HCG plus 0.5mg anastrozole twice a week. My observations so far are as follows: libido went from low to through the roof. Wood all the time. So this has completely eliminated performance anxiety so I completely stopped Cialis. In that deparment I feel 18 years old. I sleep a lot better now. My energy has increased. Nipples a bit sensitive but no gyro. However, for the last two weeks I am fighting a persistent cold so I have not been able to assess my perfromance at the gym. Despite that, muscles look fuller, mostly delts, upper chest and arms. Overall I am very happy so far. I called Primebody for my next shipment to send me 10 100mg syringes instead of the 5 200mg I got the first month so I enjoy twice a week. They had no problem with that.

i have only one weird sideffect. My wife says my face looks darker, more red I would say. Is this normal.? I am not sure what the reason might be.

 

[CoastWatcher]

One month update.

So I have started injecting 200mg weekly plus twice a weak 500 HCG plus 0.5mg anastrozole twice a week. My observations so far are as follows: libido went from low to through the roof. Wood all the time. So this has completely eliminated performance anxiety so I completely stopped Cialis. In that deparment I feel 18 years old. I sleep a lot better now. My energy has increased. Nipples a bit sensitive but no gyro. However, for the last two weeks I am fighting a persistent cold so I have not been able to assess my perfromance at the gym. Despite that, muscles look fuller, mostly delts, upper chest and arms. Overall I am very happy so far. I called Primebody for my next shipment to send me 10 100mg syringes instead of the 5 200mg I got the first month so I enjoy twice a week. They had no problem with that.

i have only one weird sideffect. My wife says my face looks darker, more red I would say. Is this normal.? I am not sure what the reason might be.

What is your hematocrit and hemoglobin? You should be due for follow-up lab work soon. Be sure that is checked.

 

[Periandros]

I have not done blood work yet. I think it is due in a couple of weeks. Pre TRT 2 months ago my hematorcrit was 46.

 

[Periandros]

Hemoglobin was 14.9